The US (split from Blow to US Democracy)

[Firebirdy]

The U.S. is an oligarchical republic, not an officially democratic nation. Oligarchical lobbying and bribing have all affected the American government entirely in every state.

An increasing amount of people have voted for a better public education system, better public healthcare, better internet providers that have faster internet speeds for modern video gaming, better infrastructure, improved economies in American small towns, and other things to no avail because the rich and powerful people who truly own America are part of a smaller population that control it through oligarchical lobbying and bribing.

Elitist big corporations are killing small businesses in America.

It's been proven that the American small towns are becoming poorer, less educated, and less economically diverse because of oligarchically bureaucratic strangeholds and elitist big corporations that replace human workers with robots.

Retirement benefits, employee benefits, and quality education have all decreased drastically in America after World War 2. Which is why the average Europeans have higher I.Q.s, much more employee benefits, and much more retirement benefits than average Americans do. Because America is the opposite of progressive.

Divided States of America was founded by religious terrorists, military terrorists, delusional white supremacists, an elitist mob, sexist pigs, and greedy degeneracy. Nothing has changed. "United" States of America continues to have systemic racism, systemic classism, systemic sexism, systemic ableism, toxic elitism, health disorders, and mental disorders as a result. Democracy and progressivism are jokes in America.

Rich and powerful people from corporate America are in bed with the Chinese communists in the market because China controls the Apple company and other companies that import products into America. China is known for brainwashing concentration camps known as re-education camps. China is also known for the brainwashing social credit system. The Chinese government is known for being anti-online privacy. The Chinese people are behaving like The Borg from Star Trek to some extent as a result. The Chinese politicians have banned South Park, too. The rich and powerful people who control the American government continue to be in bed with the Chinese communists despite all of that. That's not democracy. That's an oligarchically totalitarian group of people from America working with another oligarchically totalitarian group of people from China.

America and China are controlled by right-leaning terrorists who legalise gag orders, online surveillance, systemic sexism, systemic racism, systemic ableism, systemic classism, concentration camps disguised as public schools for children, etc. Joe Biden is a white, Christian, discreetly heteronormative, discreetly sexist, and discreetly right-leaning terrorist disguised as a democrat. There's not much difference between U.S. presidents because they are mostly white, Christian, heteronormative, sexist, and right-leaning terrorists who have ties to the American military and are from wealthy families. America is least likely to have a female president who is black, atheistic, bisexual, egalitarian, and left-leaning.

America is no longer the greatest country in the world. It's actually falling apart. Water pollution, air pollution, decaying small towns, big corporations killing small businesses, increasing wealth gap, decreasing employee benefits, decreasing retirement benefits, misogynistic religions making a lot of money in America, the abusive for-profit prison industry that's causing prisoners to behave worse than they did before they were thrown in the for-profit prison system, the increasing amount of opiate addiction, the increasing obesity, feminazis, snowflakes, tranazis, political correctness, woketivists, emasculated men from transengderism and #MeToo, feminazis that are abusing men in America with sexist double standards, children being neglected by cut-throat career-driven parents, the increasing amount of antisocial sweatshops in America, California's oppressive laws, New York's laws that are decreasing freedoms and decaying its infrastructure, and other things have damaged America. Some former residents have permanently escaped from America because of that.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These videos describe the result of what happens when rich and powerful people create an oligarchical society based on systemic classism, systemic sexism, systemic racism, greedy degeneracy, etc.

Edited March 17, 2021 by Firebirdy

[zapatos]

I forget. Did you say you quit your social media accounts and other forums, or were you kicked out?

Edited March 17, 2021 by zapatos

[beecee]

2 hours ago, Firebirdy said:

The U.S. is an oligarchical republic, not an officially democratic nation. Oligarchical lobbying and bribing have all affected the American government entirely in every state.

Sounds like the start of a long, boring rant.

[John Cuthber]

8 hours ago, beecee said:

Sounds like the start of a long, boring rant.

Doesn't stop it being true. The major error seems to be that they still think the Chinese are communists.

[Phi for All]

Other major errors: too many points of discussion for a single thread. Much better to pick a single one and drill down, that way you avoid a rant and you get some meaningful response. How does one respond to so much opinion? I like opinion in small bites, and this OP makes me choke. 

Also, the videos are a BIG mistake. Nobody has time for that, and why would I want to come here to watch videos? This is a science discussion forum, and what makes it interesting is the member's perspective. I want them to talk about what they mean, not a bunch of videos to say, "This is what I'm talking about". 

As John Cuthber points out, rants can be valid, but I think they also obscure a lot of meaningful points that can be drawn out through a simple conversation. This is a round table, not a podium in front of an auditorium.

 

[zapatos]

I've never seen so many unsubstantiated claims in one post since I've been here. Biden is a "terrorist"? Public schools are "concentration camps"? Give me a break.

Edited March 18, 2021 by zapatos

[dimreepr]

1 minute ago, zapatos said:

I've never seen so many unsubstantiated claims in one post since I've been here. Biden is a "terrorist"? Public schools are "concentration camps"? Give me a break.

Sometimes one has to search through the shit to get the answer, for instance, public/private/privileged school's, in Britain are charities... 😉

[zapatos]

37 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Sometimes one has to search through the shit to get the answer, for instance, public/private/privileged school's, in Britain are charities... 😉

I'm unsure how your unsubstantiated claim of schools as charities is any better than Firebirdy's claim of schools as concentration camps.

 

[dimreepr]

Wycliffe college, for instance is a charity...

 

While Maidenhill is a state school.

[zapatos]

2 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Wycliffe college, for instance is a charity...

 

Well, now that you've provided evidence I feel much better...

[dimreepr]

5 minutes ago, zapatos said:

Well, now that you've provided evidence I feel much better...

Charity, is more than evidence, I feel much beter,,,

[John Cuthber]

3 hours ago, zapatos said:

I'm unsure how your unsubstantiated claim of schools as charities is any better than Firebirdy's claim of schools as concentration camps.

 

Well, for a start, it is factually correct, and documented as being so.

[zapatos]

1 hour ago, John Cuthber said:

Well, for a start, it is factually correct, and documented as being so.

Tough to tell without any references. Guess it is now up to the reader to verify the claims of others.

[MigL]

To be fair Zap, John usually is not, but Dim is always ambiguous ...

😁😁

Edited March 18, 2021 by MigL

[CharonY]

1 hour ago, zapatos said:

Tough to tell without any references. Guess it is now up to the reader to verify the claims of others.

I am not sure whether I am understanding the situation correctly, and maybe I am just stating the obvious, but public schools in the UK are endowed schools and historically have started as charity schools which were established to provide access to poor students. Now with the presence of an actual public (state) system, they are what would be called private schools elsewhere. However, I think most still enjoy the benefits of having a caritable status (but not sure whether that is still the case).

 

[zapatos]

23 minutes ago, CharonY said:

I am not sure whether I am understanding the situation correctly, and maybe I am just stating the obvious, but public schools in the UK are endowed schools and historically have started as charity schools which were established to provide access to poor students. Now with the presence of an actual public (state) system, they are what would be called private schools elsewhere. However, I think most still enjoy the benefits of having a caritable status (but not sure whether that is still the case).

 

Sorry, this took off after I commented that the OP was full of unsubstantiated claims. For some reason dimreepr responded that some British schools are charities and it went south from there.

[CharonY]

29 minutes ago, zapatos said:

Sorry, this took off after I commented that the OP was full of unsubstantiated claims. For some reason dimreepr responded that some British schools are charities and it went south from there.

Fair enough. Sorry for adding in, I just saw the post and for some reason chimed in. Too much work and not enough coffee...

[zapatos]

10 minutes ago, CharonY said:

I just saw the post and for some reason chimed in. 

Thanks for jumping in. I Googled Wycliffe but didn't gather the background you provided.  😁

[dimreepr]

21 hours ago, zapatos said:

I'm unsure how your unsubstantiated claim of schools as charities is any better than Firebirdy's claim of schools as concentration camps.

 

I thought it was common knowledge and I thought I'd linked to https://www.wycliffe.co.uk/terms-conditions/#:~:text=2.4 Wycliffe is a registered,regulated by the Charity Commission. in my reply.

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2.4 Wycliffe is a registered charity with registered charity number 311714 and is regulated by the Charity Commission.

As to the point...

On 3/17/2021 at 10:22 PM, Firebirdy said:

The U.S. is an oligarchical republic, not an officially democratic nation. Oligarchical lobbying and bribing have all affected the American government entirely in every state.

An increasing amount of people have voted for a better public education system, better public healthcare, better internet providers that have faster internet speeds for modern video gaming, better infrastructure, improved economies in American small towns, and other things to no avail because the rich and powerful people who truly own America are part of a smaller population that control it through oligarchical lobbying and bribing.

I don't think this part is unsubstantiated (I haven't read the rest), my post was an attempt to show how corruption can turn a virtue bad. 

I think the founding father's of the USA, tried to write a virtuous and corruption proof set of rules; and as much as making the education of the poor a charity is virtuous; charity itself is corrupted when it benefits the wealthy.

16 hours ago, MigL said:

To be fair Zap, John usually is not, but Dim is always ambiguous ...

😁😁

What else is there to discuss?

[Firebirdy]

Not my fault that people have limited attention spans that make them intellectually challenged. If they don't have time for videos and to look up online information that connect the dots to those videos, then their intelligence is questionable at best.

[StringJunky]

3 minutes ago, Firebirdy said:

Not my fault that people have limited attention spans that make them intellectually challenged. If they don't have time for videos and to look up online information that connect the dots to those videos, then their intelligence is questionable at best.

Watching videos takes time and the chances are it will be a waste of time, and life, that can never be reclaimed. We do have reading skills though that we can zoom through or absorb as fast we like.

[zapatos]

8 minutes ago, Firebirdy said:

Not my fault that people have limited attention spans that make them intellectually challenged. If they don't have time for videos and to look up online information that connect the dots to those videos, then their intelligence is questionable at best.

That' an interesting take. I've never seen a study that connected NOT watching Youtube with limited intellect. 

Do you have a citation for that? I was not able to find anything online.

[Phi for All]

44 minutes ago, Firebirdy said:

Not my fault that people have limited attention spans that make them intellectually challenged. If they don't have time for videos and to look up online information that connect the dots to those videos, then their intelligence is questionable at best.

No offense, but that's some mangled reasoning there. The videos aren't what's important here, the knowledge is. Reading is faster, and you have a better chance at picking up flaws and misunderstandings from the written word. And NOBODY said anything about not having time to research online, you just made that up as an easy thing to knock down.

Again, no offense, but I can't help but think you've been booted from so many forums that you now tend to show up and throw up EVERYTHING you want to talk about all at once, since you suspect you won't have long at any one site. Can I make a suggestion? Before your attitude gets you a bunch more negative rep points for rudeness and snobbery, how about you pick JUST ONE of the things you'd like to talk about, start a new thread on it, give a brief opening post to start us out, and encourage some conversation about it, rather than trying to climb a box with a megaphone? I think you'll be amazed at the difference in the responses. Many people here have proposed many of your individual points.

[Firebirdy]

American children and teenagers have an unhealthy waking schedule when they go to their public schools. It's been scientifically proven that the American public schools have detrimental schedules for teenagers who have different needs than children do because teenagers need more sleep and have a harder time falling asleep than children do because of teenagers' hormones from puberty that made it harder for them to fall asleep before 11:00 P.M. or 23:00 P.M. to get a healthy amount of rest before they wake up at 7:00 A.M. or before that time to get into school buses and start their classes. This has been detrimental to American teenagers' psychological health and their physical health in general. The American public schools also have foods and drinks that are detrimental to the American children and teenagers' psychological health and physical health. The American public schools have a system that values grades, standardised tests, and G.P.A. more than the ability to learn. The anti-bullying clubs in the American public schools are pointless because the American public schools are anti-intellectual indoctrination camps that are designed to bully students' psychological health, physical health, and ability to learn when they are valued based on how poor their parents are, and then they have the grades and G.P.A. before high school that will determine what education opportunities and job opportunities they will have after they graduate from high school because America has a racist, sexist, and classist caste system with elite universities such Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Columbia, Brown, Cornell, Princeton, and Penn that represent white privilege, students from wealthy families that gave them inherited opportunities to be in elite universities in the first place, and a lack of empathy and sympathy for poor families and people who didn't win the genetic lottery.

The increasing wealth gap, obesity, drug addiction, alcoholism, poverty, crime, abusive for-profit prison industry, religious extremism that replaces scientific thinking with religious thinking, and heavy government regulation on businesses that let big corporations kill small businesses, especially in American small towns, in America will make it much harder for children in America to win the genetic lottery before they're born and be born into wealthy and psychologically stable families that will let them have many education opportunities and job opportunities. Which proves my point that America has a caste system that is founded on bullying people based on their race, sex, social class that they were born into, grades, and G.P.A. And then, there is American military terrorism. Which war breeds sociopaths, psychopaths, rapists, criminals, and psychologically traumatised people. The European countries don't do this as much. Which is why the Europeans have higher I.Q.s, healthier bodies, wealthier societies, more scientific literacy, more mathematical literacy, less sociopaths, less psychopaths, less rapists, less criminals, and other things than the American society does on average.

The rich and powerful people who own America are not interested in making American children behave civilised, decently educated, and down-to-earth. They are interested in making American children become gullible consumers when they become adults that allow the American military to terrorise countries for resources such as oil and the abusive-profit prison industry to abuse and dehumanise prisoners that make the prisoners behave worse before they were thrown into the abusive for-profit prison industry in the first place by making anti-intellectual indoctrination camps disguised as public schools for children. Which is why there were people that considered themselves refugees that lived in America that escaped America because America is falling apart due to moral bankruptcy, decreasing amount of healthy citizens, increasing wealth gap, the abusive for-profit prison industry, the American military terrorism, increasing mass shootings, religious terrorist leaders from the American southern states who are trying to defund American public schools and fund private religious schools to replace scientific thinking with religious thinking in America, sexist double standards that abuse people based on their biological sex in court rooms, and other things.

The lack of a social safety net and scientific literacy in America are why there have been people who permanently left America due to this pandemic to live in the European countries because the European countries have Europeans that have more scientific literacy due to being decently educated and social safety nets to protect people during this pandemic for example. The rich and powerful people in America are protected and have wealthy privilege to do what they want to do during this pandemic while the scientifically illiterate Americans who came from poor families, didn't win the genetic lottery, and were oppressed by the rich and powerful people in America were dying from COVID.

[iNow]

Why does the term "screed" come to mind? Anyway, that axe must be sharp by now with all the grinding you're doing.