altaylar2000 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, studiot said: When you have responded to my earlier points. Your questions lead away from the essence of the phenomenon into insignificant nuances. I am also not interested in discussing current without voltage, I am sure that this does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, altaylar2000 said: Your questions lead away from the essence of the phenomenon into insignificant nuances. I am also not interested in discussing current without voltage, I am sure that this does not exist. In other words you don't know what you are talking about and have no wish to learn. Thank you for the confirmation. Thread reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altaylar2000 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, studiot said: in other words you don't know what you are talking about and have no wish to learn. In other words, why don't we discuss the electric battery in your watch, just because you want all your "questions" to be answered Edited April 1, 2021 by altaylar2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 I don't have a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altaylar2000 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, studiot said: I don't have a watch. I thought that your watch runs from current without voltage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, altaylar2000 said: I thought that your watch runs from current without voltage Of course not, particularly as I don't have a watch. Take an OC81P and scrape (some of) the black paint off the case. Connect it into a suitable circuit without any power supply, battery or otherwise. Shine a light on the OC81P And lo and behold a current will flow in the circuit. Take an A47 - 18W Connect it into a suitable circuit, Switch on Why do you think the screen lights up? Take an ECC81. Connect it into a suitable circuit with a heater supply, but no anode voltage. Low and behold there is an anode current flowing. Why do you think this is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 ! Moderator Note The discussion has not included sufficient detail and rigor to be discussed (no, "conductors are shiny" doesn't come close to clearing that hurdle). If there is no model or testable predictions - something that makes this falsifiable - it will be closed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altaylar2000 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, studiot said: Why do you think this is ? Because there is potential difference(voltage) LOL 5 minutes ago, swansont said: The discussion has not included sufficient detail and rigor to be discussed (no, "conductors are shiny" doesn't come close to clearing that hurdle). If there is no model or testable predictions - something that makes this falsifiable - it will be closed There is a refutation of the hypothesis of current as particle motion, since near-light velocities and particle motion are not combined. Prediction is as follows. Let's assume that the current has a wave nature. We set up an experiment. We turn on the generator and fix the speed, after which the consumer turns on. It turns out that the hypothesis is correct. Let's do the same experiment, assuming that the current is the movement of particles. The speed does not match. Consequently, the theory of particle motion has failed in predicting the turn-on time of the consumer. Proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, altaylar2000 said: Because there is potential difference(voltage) LOL There is a refutation of the hypothesis of current as particle motion, since near-light velocities and particle motion are not combined. Prediction is as follows. Let's assume that the current has a wave nature. We set up an experiment. We turn on the generator and fix the speed, after which the consumer turns on. It turns out that the hypothesis is correct. Let's do the same experiment, assuming that the current is the movement of particles. The speed does not match. Consequently, the theory of particle motion has failed in predicting the turn-on time of the consumer. Proven. ! Moderator Note "Let's do an experiment and it shows I'm right" is not a prediction or something that can falsify an hypothesis. Closed. Don't bring this up again, in any thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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