Arnav Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 I was told to find the range of a function f(x) = (x²-1)/(x-1) where x cannot be 1. I know the proper solution is this : Since x cannot be 1, f(x) reduces to x+1 therefore Range = R - {2} Bu at my first attempt I did this: let y = (x²-1)/(x-1) yx - y = x²-1 x² - yx + y -1 =0 For x to be real, the discriminant of this equation should be >= 0 Therefore y² - 4(y-1) >= 0 (y-2)² >= 0 y can take all real values. Now, where did I go wrong? Why is 2 also coming in the range with the second method? How do I distinguish when to find the range using the 2nd method and when not? Quote Quote Quote
studiot Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Arnav said: x² - yx + y -1 =0 This leads to put y = 2 then x2 -2x +1 =0 (x-1) (x-1) = 0 x =1.
Country Boy Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 1:48 PM, Arnav said: I was told to find the range of a function f(x) = (x²-1)/(x-1) where x cannot be 1. I know the proper solution is this : Since x cannot be 1, f(x) reduces to x+1 therefore Range = R - {2} Bu at my first attempt I did this: let y = (x²-1)/(x-1) yx - y = x²-1[/quote] When you did this, you removed the discontinuity. x² - yx + y -1 =0 For x to be real, the discriminant of this equation should be >= 0 Therefore y² - 4(y-1) >= 0 (y-2)² >= 0 y can take all real values. Now, where did I go wrong? Why is 2 also coming in the range with the second method? How do I distinguish when to find the range using the 2nd method and when not?
Arnav Posted June 17, 2021 Author Posted June 17, 2021 On 6/15/2021 at 5:03 PM, Country Boy said: On 6/15/2021 at 5:03 PM, Country Boy said: When you did this, you removed the discontinuity. could you please elaborate? I have not studied about continuity and discontinuity yet.
Country Boy Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 On 6/17/2021 at 1:36 PM, Arnav said: could you please elaborate? I have not studied about continuity and discontinuity yet. A function, f(x), is continuous at x= a if and only if 1) f(a) exists 2) $\lim_{x\to a} f(x)$ exists 3)$\lim_{x\to a} f(x)= f(a) Since (3) requires both (1) and (2) often we just state (3). Of course, if a function is NOT continuous at x= a, it is discontinuous there, Here, [tex]f(x)= \frac{x^2- 1}{x- 1}[/tex] is not continuous at x=1 becaue $f(1)= \frac{0}{0}$ does not exist. As long as x is NOT 1, [tex]\frac{x^2- 1}{x- 1}= x+ 1[/tex]. g(x)= x+ 1 exists at x= 1, g(1)= 2 and $\lim_{x\to 1} x+ 1= (\lim_{x\to 1} x)+ 1= 1+ 1= 2$ so this new function, g(x)= x+ 1, is continuous at x= 1.
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