Conscious Energy Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, zapatos said: Interesting. I've known a number of people who cheated, but I didn't realize they also didn't masturbate. Interesting. I know a number of ppl who masturbate but don’t cheat. I think almost every cheater will masturbate too. 100% from those whom I personally know they cheat. Edited July 29, 2021 by Conscious Energy
TheVat Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 What's that old social science joke...research shows that 90 % of men masturbate, and 10% of men lie on questionnaires.
zapatos Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 51 minutes ago, Conscious Energy said: Interesting. I know a number of ppl who masturbate but don’t cheat. I think almost every cheater will masturbate too. 100% from those whom I personally know they cheat. So I guess masturbating doesn't cause people to avoid cheating after all. Thanks for clarifying.
Conscious Energy Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, zapatos said: So I guess masturbating doesn't cause people to avoid cheating after all. Thanks for clarifying. In some cases, yes, masturbation is helping to avoid cheating. (The ppl who masturbates but DO NOT cheat.) Yes, you are right that not every single human being will be able to avoid cheating by masturbation. Edited July 29, 2021 by Conscious Energy
zapatos Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Conscious Energy said: In some cases, yes, masturbation is helping to avoid cheating. (The ppl who masturbates but DO NOT cheat.) I should have been more direct. What evidence do you have that masturbation is helping to avoid cheating? It sounds like you are just making that claim because it seems right to you, not because it is necessarily true.
Conscious Energy Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, zapatos said: I should have been more direct. What evidence do you have that masturbation is helping to avoid cheating? It sounds like you are just making that claim because it seems right to you, not because it is necessarily true. Practice makes the master. Communication works for those who work at it. I will try to find some study if there have been any executed on this exact topic. Until that, I only can share my empirical evidences. Maybe if you know anyone who did not cheat, you could ask, did masturbation helped not to cheat.
zapatos Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Conscious Energy said: I will try to find some study if there have been any executed on this exact topic. Until that, I only can share my empirical evidences. Anecdotal?
Conscious Energy Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, zapatos said: Anecdotal? If you haven’t been lucky enough to be married and faithful, You could ask the right questions from the right people, and you have Empirical evidence. In case you have no one who you can honestly speak about this topic, it can be just anecdotal Edited July 29, 2021 by Conscious Energy
iNow Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) Counter proposal: Masturbation makes you MORE likely to cheat. It primes you to see others in more sexual terms, reinforces the pleasure mechanism and sense of joy from ejaculation, and leads you to seek more and more and more to overcome the desensitization and boredom from always doing it yourself. See how easy it is to make stuff up when evidence doesn’t matter? I even did it without suggesting you’re not lucky enough to be married or have no one to talk to Edited July 29, 2021 by iNow
TheVat Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Conscious Energy said: Maybe if you know anyone who did not cheat, you could ask, did masturbation helped not to cheat. It's hard for me to picture how that conversation would happen. So, Ted, I notice you've never cheated on Carol. Was that because you jerked off? Anyway, thanks for making this thread which was already amusing even more so! 23 minutes ago, iNow said: Counter proposal: Masturbation makes you MORE likely to cheat. It primes you to see others in more sexual terms, reinforces the pleasure mechanism and sense of joy from ejaculation, and leads you to seek more and more and more to overcome the desensitization and boredom from always doing it yourself. See how easy it is to make stuff up when evidence doesn’t matter? I even did it without suggesting you’re not lucky enough to be married or have no one to talk to Well put. And my guess would be that "counter proposal" is closer to the reality of what happens when relationships fade.
zapatos Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Conscious Energy said: If you haven’t been lucky enough to be married and faithful, You could ask the right questions from the right people, and you have Empirical evidence. In case you have no one who you can honestly speak about this topic, it can be just anecdotal Not me. You are the one who made the claim. Don't ask me to collect evidence to support the veracity of your claim. Asking someone detailed questions about their onanistic practices is not on my "to-do" list. 4 hours ago, Conscious Energy said: I think almost every cheater will masturbate too. 100% from those whom I personally know they cheat. Did you observe them shucking corn or did you ask them if they'd been badgering the witness?
iNow Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, zapatos said: Did you observe them shucking corn or did you ask them if they'd been badgering the witness? “Excuse me, kind sir. I couldn’t help but notice your recent infidelity. Am I correct in assuming you haven’t self-saddled the one-eyed baloney pony lately?” 1 hour ago, TheVat said: So, Ted, I notice you've never cheated on Carol. Was that because you jerked off? “No, it’s because Carol took such good care of me that I never felt the need!”
zapatos Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, iNow said: “Excuse me, kind sir. I couldn’t help but notice your recent infidelity. Am I correct in assuming you haven’t self-saddled the one-eyed baloney pony lately?” Why is it that there are such colorful descriptions of all things sex? Maybe there should be a thread on that... 🍑🍆😆
iNow Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, zapatos said: Why is it that there are such colorful descriptions of all things sex? Same reason there are colorful descriptions of poop Summarized: Needless shame
Conscious Energy Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Minimal info about the correlation between masturbation and cheating, they mention a study but no link. They show a lot of factors of cheating: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/relationship-expert-reveals-the-men-most-likely-to-cheat-on-their-partner/AUBMU6BGVZHC6X3I4S5F27S5DU/ The info about the correlation: “Other research has found people who watch porn and masturbate are less likely to cheat than those who don't.” A positive aspect of masturbation: https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/sexual-health/a37167845/men-should-ejaculate-at-least-21-times-a-month-to-slash-their-prostate-cancer-risk/ Edited July 30, 2021 by Conscious Energy
iNow Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Conscious Energy said: Minimal info about the correlation between masturbation and cheating Minimal info, indeed. An opinion piece from the Daily Mail. Was it too hard finding an article in the National Inquirer or the Onion to support your claim?
Conscious Energy Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, iNow said: Minimal info, indeed. An opinion piece from the Daily Mail. Was it too hard finding an article in the National Inquirer or the Onion to support your claim? Didn’t dig that deep since the topic is not that interesting (already known by empirical evidence) but have fun: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21667234/ maybe you should give a list of publishers you accept to make it easy. Edited July 30, 2021 by Conscious Energy -2
iNow Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Conscious Energy said: have fun: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21667234/ maybe you should give a list of publishers you accept to make it easy. And maybe you should actually read the articles you cite and stop acting like snotty little child when challenged... especially when those articles you're sharing DIRECTLY refute the very the claim you've been making. For convenience, here's the bit I found most relevant from your citation (emphasis mine): Quote There were no significant differences between those who had engaged in infidelity and those who had not in terms of the amount of sexual activity, masturbation frequency... You can read more for yourself here: https://kinseyinstitute.org/pdf/Infidelity in hetero couples.pdf 2
zapatos Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, Conscious Energy said: Didn’t dig that deep since the topic is not that interesting (already known by empirical evidence) but have fun: You mean anecdotal evidence...
Conscious Energy Posted July 30, 2021 Posted July 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, iNow said: And maybe you should actually read the articles you cite and stop acting like snotty little child when challenged... especially when those articles you're sharing DIRECTLY refute the very the claim you've been making. For convenience, here's the bit I found most relevant from your citation (emphasis mine): You can read more for yourself here: https://kinseyinstitute.org/pdf/Infidelity in hetero couples.pdf Thanks, you are right. I was lazy to read it and too sure about my right with a bit of arrogance. I am Sorry. At least now we know. 2
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