dimreepr Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 Why are we more civilised than the ancient greeks?
joigus Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 We aren't. Civilisation is a moving standard. We will look uncivilised and barbaric to our offspring far down the line. Unless Mad Max was a prophecy.
studiot Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, dimreepr said: Why are we more civilised than the ancient greeks? Because the Ancient Greeks didn't have leaders like Boris.
swansont Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, dimreepr said: Why are we more civilised than the ancient greeks? ! Moderator Note 1. more civilized ≠ more advanced. Which one are you asking about? 2. Provide an explanation of what you mean by the term you choose, and establish that it’s true, before you ask why it’s true.
Prometheus Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 I've been learning a little about emperor Julian, the last Pagan Roman emperor. He thought Christianity was a regressive step to classical culture and advocated freedom of religion. With the hindsight of history it's hard to argue he was wrong. 10 minutes ago, studiot said: Because the Ancient Greeks didn't have leaders like Boris. I used to think Greek culture was superior to Roman - until i heard Boris argue for the Greeks. 1
dimreepr Posted July 14, 2021 Author Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, swansont said: ! Moderator Note 1. more civilized ≠ more advanced. Which one are you asking about? 2. Provide an explanation of what you mean by the term you choose, and establish that it’s true, before you ask why it’s true. I think we tend to get confused about the term's of civilised and advancement; we have better gadgets therefore we're more advanced (better, cleverer). I think we should investigate that assumption because they're not equal. I chose the ancient Greeks because they built their civilisation on the back of slaves, we just call them the poor.
dimreepr Posted July 14, 2021 Author Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Prometheus said: I used to think Greek culture was superior to Roman - until i heard Boris argue for the Greeks. Indeed +1, that debate goes to the heart of my question... why is western philosophy, more productive?
swansont Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, dimreepr said: I think we tend to get confused about the term's of civilised and advancement; we have better gadgets therefore we're more advanced (better, cleverer). I think we should investigate that assumption because they're not equal. ! Moderator Note Your thread isn’t doing this; open a new one to investigate 2 hours ago, dimreepr said: I chose the ancient Greeks because they built their civilisation on the back of slaves, we just call them the poor. ! Moderator Note But you still haven’t defined what more civilized means, or that your premise is true. Yet you are asking why it’s true. 1 hour ago, dimreepr said: why is western philosophy, more productive? ! Moderator Note Again, you ask why something is true, instead of asking if it is true
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