BV63 Posted June 12, 2022 Author Posted June 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bufofrog said: So you don't even know if it's true? Sounds like you are purposely spreading misinformation about a health issue. Why in the hell would you do that? If i wanted to do that i would claim the numbers are real of course. It was a simple question. I know VAIDS is real and looking for studies and data to provide as evidence to warn others. -3
CharonY Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 That is seriously backwards reasoning. You cannot just assume that something is true and selective search for evidence of it. I mean you can, but you will end up with false assumptions and conspiracy theories. In most cases this is just sad, but in an ongoing pandemic you are part of the legion of folks who are endangering others. It is rather sad, really. 1
Bufofrog Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, BV63 said: I know VAIDS is real No you don't, you believe it is real but I have no idea why.
BV63 Posted June 12, 2022 Author Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bufofrog said: No you don't, you believe it is real but I have no idea why. Yes i am 100% certain. But i´m no scientist so it´s not that easy to find confirming studies etc. Why would VAIDS be BS if Covid hurt T-cells and the vaxx damage the natural immune system so people get Chronic Covid? Edited June 12, 2022 by BV63 -2
Phi for All Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, BV63 said: Yes i am 100% certain. But i´m no scientist This is an irrational and unreasonable stance no matter what you're talking about.
Bufofrog Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, BV63 said: vaxx damage the natural immune system so people get Chronic Covid. You should stop spreading false rumors.
exchemist Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, BV63 said: Is this true and would you be alarmed by it? "The BA4/5 sister variants currently dominate two countries: South Africa and Portugal. South Africa is barely vaccinated (only 35% had a vaccine, 5% had a booster), whereas Portugal is 95% vaccinated and 70% boosted. The situations in these countries could not be any more different: while Ba.4 and Ba.5 were mere blips on the radar in South Africa, these same variants are driving a deadly wave of Covid in highly-vaccinated Portugal, with deaths among the Portuguese nearing January peak and showing few signs of abating." This appears to be balls. What source are you quoting?
iNow Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, exchemist said: This appears to be balls. What source are you quoting? The mostly likely source is close to the balls, but a bit farther rearward. 1
Phi for All Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, BV63 said: Why would VAIDS be BS if Covid hurt T-cells and the vaxx damage the natural immune system so people get Chronic Covid? Yet another thread where you're given experienced answers to your questions and you ignore them in order to continue to ask the questions. I'm reporting you for bad faith arguments. If you aren't here to discuss science, and prefer to spread misinformation, you really aren't welcome here. 1
swansont Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 4 hours ago, BV63 said: Yes i am 100% certain. But i´m no scientist so it´s not that easy to find confirming studies etc. ! Moderator Note If you have no studies, it precludes being certain. You are pushing an idea without scientific backing, and that has no place here.
BV63 Posted June 13, 2022 Author Posted June 13, 2022 Here are the data. If that is correct it is not alarming?? "Portugal is probably the European country with the highest prevalence of this sub-lineage and this partly explains the high number (of cases) we are seeing," Health Minister Marta Temido told RTP broadcaster." https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/omicron-sub-variant-fuels-portugals-covid-19-surge-2022-06-02/ "In South Africa, where the subtypes originated, both sub-variants are dominant."
exchemist Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, BV63 said: Here are the data. If that is correct it is not alarming?? "Portugal is probably the European country with the highest prevalence of this sub-lineage and this partly explains the high number (of cases) we are seeing," Health Minister Marta Temido told RTP broadcaster." https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/omicron-sub-variant-fuels-portugals-covid-19-surge-2022-06-02/ "In South Africa, where the subtypes originated, both sub-variants are dominant." Not necessarily, no. You need to know who is dying. In the UK, there is high prevalence of Covid (I had it myself recently, as did my 94 yr old father), but almost always it is the unvaccinated, or people with comorbidities, that end up in hospital or die. My father and I just had mild colds. If we had not been testing ourselves, we would not have known it was Covid. Both of us are triple vaccinated. Re Portugal, we need to know who is dying. Portugal has quite an elderly population, whereas S Africa has a young one. This will make a big difference. The fact is that nobody in Europe is expressing serious concern about Portugal: there are no travel restrictions or advisories. Edited June 13, 2022 by exchemist 1
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