Why cant they invent a computer program that solves the energy crisis in mathematical terms?

[CarlDarwin]

Can the energy crisis not be quantitatively broken down into mathematical functions in its myriad forms, and then solved like a gigantic puzzle? 

Surely the problem lies not in computer science's inability to process a puzzle that big, a giant leap for human brains but a small step for NASA supercomputers; but in that task of quantifying into mathematical formulae, the specific functions that incorporate the energy crisis?

[Peterkin]

Of course it can. My laptop could probably do it.

As soon as someone defines "energy crisis" in quantitative terms.

However, breaking down into mathematical formulae what specific functions constitute the energy crisis - or a crisis of any kind, or even the concept of crisis is beyond the reach of computational skill.

Edited March 24, 2022 by Peterkin

[Phi for All]

5 minutes ago, Peterkin said:

Of course it can. My laptop could probably do it.

As soon as you define "energy crisis" in quantitative terms.

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Moderator Note

I'll leave the thread open if you want to continue to discuss this, but the OP is a sockpuppet of a banned account, and won't be defining terms for you.

 

[Peterkin]

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[Ken Fabian]

Not sure what is meant by "the energy crisis". I thought first you meant the climate change challenge of replacing dirty energy with clean but suspect it may be the short term shocks from Russia's Ukraine invasion you are referring to.

I have no doubt that European nations are quantifying near term available energy resources and requirements in mathematical terms - something nations tend to do anyway, just with more urgency at the moment. But whilst finding the optimum based on those factors may be possible there is politics and balancing various interests to complicate things. EG - clearly it is given that German Greens will oppose extending the lives of nuclear plants - but Germans apart from Greens have misgivings too or the agreement to close them would not have happened. Some of those are more about the poor cost effectiveness of keeping them going given they are expensive and they need a lot of work. Other Germans don't care about climate or nuclear and want returns on their brown coal and gas investments. A study showing other options would be better than nuclear will not be welcomed and would face opposition, just as studies showing doing upgrades to existing nuclear plants would help will face opposition. Given we've had more than 3 decades of consistent science based studies showing we need to get out of fossil fuels the growth of their use was (and is) widely supported by the same governments that commissioned and funded those studies - it is clear that doing studies isn't the biggest problem.

[Sensei]

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Why cant they invent a computer program that solves the energy crisis in mathematical terms?

..but it is very easy to solve.. simply all people on the entire planet must stop using money (in any form)..

Apart from physical limits, availability of money prevents scientists, engineers, workers, anybody from doing something..

NASA engineers after shutdown of Apollo program did not "forget" how to build rockets. The US government cut them from money, and dismissed high-level knowledgeable and sent them home, have to go to work in the private sector, below their abilities.

If you have "economy" without money, you can build solar panels at any quantity, limited just by speed of getting rare chemical elements from mines required to build them.

In a "classic", i.e. today's economy, if people won't buy e.g. solar panels by themselves, they won't have them (there is need one of on each building or so).. Some Western countries governments are trying to speed this up by giving refunds (fixed amount, 25%, 50%, 100%) for buying devices producing renewable energy, but it's a huge bureaucracy, and method of stealing money before it gets to the average Joe Doe, and the refund is given after the device is already on the building, so people still have to have that money up front)... So basically, if someone isn't rich, someone isn't eco-friendly, they'll just skip the crap offer from the government..

Governments should "own" the solar panel manufacturers, installation companies, etc., otherwise when demand for the product increases, the private sector will simply raise the price for the product and installation costs (basically sucking up all the tax money).

Edited March 25, 2022 by Sensei

[Peterkin]

Yes!

I've been watching a documentary on the Euro crisis in 2010. Just how insane are we???