Kartazion Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) Hello, Here are in pictures of the evolution of the universe as you've probably never seen it. References: Spoiler 1. John. D. Barrow; Mariusz. P. Dabrowski; Oscillating universes. Monthly Notices of the Royal Astro nomical Society 1995, 275, 850-862, 10.1093/mnras/275.3.850. [82] [83] [84] 2. Yun-Song Piao; Yuan-Zhong Zhang; Inflation in oscillating universe. Nuclear Physics B 2005, 725 , 265-274, 10.1016/j.nuclphysb.2005.07.021. 3. Itzhak Goldman; Nathan Rosen; Gravitation Theory and Oscillating Universe. Physical Review D 1972, 5, 1285-1287, 10.1103/physrevd.5.1285. 4. Roy A. Briere; LHCb Collaboration; Observing Matter-Antimatter Oscillations. Physics 2013, 6, 1- 3, 10.1103/physics.6.26. 5. M.K. Parida; Natural mass scales for observable matter-antimatter oscillations in SO(10). Physics Letters B 1983, 126, 220-224, 10.1016/0370-2693(83)90594-4. 6. Iberê Kuntz; Roberto Casadio; Singularity avoidance in quantum gravity. 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Bufofrog Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 Those are graphs not 'pictures'. I have seen it before. You've never been able to give a reasonable explanation of what you think these graphs represent.
Kartazion Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bufofrog said: I have seen it before. Everyone knows you're unable to provide a source for what you're saying. You put yourself in a very awkward position. Now I'm waiting to see what you're going to answer me. 2 hours ago, Bufofrog said: You've never been able to give a reasonable explanation of what you think these graphs represent. I can easily explain each of these points. I start with the simplest with the example relates to the "Hole Through the Earth Simple Harmonic Motion". The functioning of our universe and atomic is based on the oscillation of the particle itself and asymmetrically between matter and antimatter. This mechanism is a classical an-harmonic oscillator and uses a linear oscillation of the particle, where the energy can be represented by the graph of a potential well followed by the principle and law of conservation of energy between the kinetic energy and potential energy. This an-harmonic oscillation therefore occurs with a gravitational oscillator (see "Hole Through the Earth Simple Harmonic Motion"). This linear gravitational oscillator in the following figure uses a particle of mass m oscillating vertically along the gravity vector G. The oscillation has two phases. The first is the falling phase of the particle with its Potential Energy PE and the second is the reverse phase which corresponds to the Kinetic Energy KE. It is from the center of the Earth that what is in Potential Energy is transformed into Kinetic Energy and is reversed at the level at the point of origine 0 or x=0. Potential Energy - Kinetic Energy = 0 References: 1. John. D. Barrow; Mariusz. P. Dabrowski; Oscillating universes. Monthly Notices of the Royal Astro nomical Society 1995, 275, 850-862, 10.1093/mnras/275.3.850. [82] [83] [84] 2. Yun-Song Piao; Yuan-Zhong Zhang; Inflation in oscillating universe. Nuclear Physics B 2005, 725 , 265-274, 10.1016/j.nuclphysb.2005.07.021. 3. Itzhak Goldman; Nathan Rosen; Gravitation Theory and Oscillating Universe. Physical Review D 1972, 5, 1285-1287, 10.1103/physrevd.5.1285. 4. Roy A. Briere; LHCb Collaboration; Observing Matter-Antimatter Oscillations. Physics 2013, 6, 1- 3, 10.1103/physics.6.26. 5. M.K. Parida; Natural mass scales for observable matter-antimatter oscillations in SO(10). Physics Letters B 1983, 126, 220-224, 10.1016/0370-2693(83)90594-4 9. Andrew J. Simoson; Falling down a Hole through the Earth. Mathematics Magazine 2004, 77, 17 1, 10.2307/3219113. 10. Journey through the center of the Earth . Hyperphysics. Retrieved 2022-7-28 Edited August 3, 2022 by Kartazion
Bufofrog Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Kartazion said: Everyone knows you're unable to provide a source for what you're saying. You put yourself in a very awkward position. Now I'm waiting to see what you're going to answer me. You posted it on another site and I saw it. 50 minutes ago, Kartazion said: I can easily explain each of these points. I start with the simplest with the example relates to the "Hole Through the Earth Simple Harmonic Motion". That doesn't have anything to do with the graphs that supposedly show the 'evolution of the universe'. So you still have not explained what the graphs in the OP are suppose to mean. The graphs are not in any normal format that I have ever seen, so an explanation would be very helpful.
Kartazion Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bufofrog said: You posted it on another site and I saw it. Okay. Well done. But coming from me you've never seen it before. By ambiguity this brought confusion for the reader of a fact that this graph already existed. But it's not. 10 minutes ago, Bufofrog said: That doesn't have anything to do with the graphs that supposedly show the 'evolution of the universe'. On the contrary, dear friend. We must already begin with the beginning. But ok it is the gravitational singularity of the Big-Bang which allows to develop the energy of current potential energy of the universe. So?
Phi for All Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, Bufofrog said: So you still have not explained what the graphs in the OP are suppose to mean. The graphs are not in any normal format that I have ever seen, so an explanation would be very helpful. I noticed this request was ignored by the OP... again. They quoted all the rest of your post but skipped any actual substance. Going back over their other posts, this is a familiar pattern. If it continues in this thread, I'll report it and maybe we can either get some clarification or we can get it to stop.
Kartazion Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bufofrog said: So you still have not explained what the graphs in the OP are suppose to mean. It represents the evolution of the universe through the anharmonic oscillator. 1 hour ago, Bufofrog said: The graphs are not in any normal format that I have ever seen, so an explanation would be very helpful. https://medium.com/predict/the-oscillating-universe-d259ab408433 55 minutes ago, Phi for All said: If it continues in this thread, I'll report it .. To who? You are in the denial of reality. 55 minutes ago, Phi for All said: ... and maybe we can either get some clarification ... https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9904313 In a recent paper Damour and Mukhanov describe a scenario where inflation may continue during the oscillatory phase. This effect is possible because the scalar field spends a significant fraction of each period of oscillation on the upper part of the potential. Such additional period of inflation could push perturbations after the slow roll regime to observable scales. Edited August 3, 2022 by Kartazion
Bufofrog Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Kartazion said: On the contrary, dear friend. We must already begin with the beginning. But ok it is the gravitational singularity of the Big-Bang which allows to develop the energy of current potential energy of the universe. So? I'm trying to understand the graphs in the OP. I guess you need specific questions. On the legend for the Y-axis you have the words inflation and energy. Both inflation and energy have up arrows so I assume that the 2 quantities are increasing. Does the Y-axis have 2 continuous values, both inflation and energy? Or does the bottom half of the graph use inflation as a Y-axis and the top of the graph use Energy for the Y axis? What are the units of inflation? What does it mean for inflation to increase? What Energy are you talking about? Hopefully, you will be able to clarify these items which will be a start.
Kartazion Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bufofrog said: I guess you need specific questions. Yes exactly. 1 hour ago, Bufofrog said: On the legend for the Y-axis you have the words inflation and energy. Both inflation and energy have up arrows so I assume that the 2 quantities are increasing. Does the Y-axis have 2 continuous values, both inflation and energy? Or does the bottom half of the graph use inflation as a Y-axis and the top of the graph use Energy for the Y axis? What are the units of inflation? What does it mean for inflation to increase? What Energy are you talking about? This is inflation through the gravitational singularity energy potential. Of course the energy is that of potential through its density. https://universe-review.ca/R02-13-inflation.htm https://ppt-online.org/180450 Edited August 3, 2022 by Kartazion
joigus Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Kartazion said: The functioning of our universe and atomic is based on the oscillation of the particle itself and asymmetrically between matter and antimatter. Are you implying that charge is not conserved?
Kartazion Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, joigus said: Are you implying that charge is not conserved? The symmetry breaking is located at x=0 at the level of the gravitational singularity. The charge and the parity CP are inverted between matter and antimatter. CP-symmetry states that the laws of physics should be the same if a particle is interchanged with its antiparticle (C-symmetry) while its spatial coordinates are inverted ("mirror" or P-symmetry). The oscillation of the particle between matter and antimatter gives the characteristic of an asymmetric distribution. Edited August 3, 2022 by Kartazion
Bufofrog Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 56 minutes ago, Kartazion said: This is inflation through the gravitational singularity energy potential. That is not very helpful. On your graph does the inflation end where the arrow ends or is inflation represented by the entire Y-axis? So on the Y-axis where you have E, you really mean energy density? It would really help me to understand the graphs if you answered my questions.
Kartazion Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bufofrog said: That is not very helpful. On your graph does the inflation end where the arrow ends or is inflation represented by the entire Y-axis? So on the Y-axis where you have E, you really mean energy density? It would really help me to understand the graphs if you answered my questions. This is expressed in relation to the potential often denoted v. https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Liddle/Liddle5_1.html One can think of the first term in each as a kinetic energy, and the second as a potential energy. The potential energy V() can be thought of as a form of `configurational' or `binding' energy; it measures how much internal energy is associated with a particular field value. Normally, like all systems, scalar fields try to minimize this energy; however, a crucial ingredient which allows inflation is that scalar fields are not always very efficient at reaching this minimum energy state. Note in passing that a scalar field cannot in general be described by an equation of state; there is no unique value of p that can be associated with a given as the energy density can be divided between potential and kinetic energy in different ways. In a given theory, there would be a specific form for the potential V(), at least up to some parameters which one could hope to measure (such as the effective mass and interaction strength of the scalar field). However, we are not presently in a position where there is a well established fundamental theory that one can use, so, in the absence of such a theory, inflation workers tend to regard V() as a function to be chosen arbitrarily, with different choices corresponding to different models of inflation (of which there are many). Some example potentials are (35) (36) (37) The strength of this approach is that it seems possible to capture many of the crucial properties of inflation by looking at some simple potentials; one is looking for results which will still hold when more `realistic' potentials are chosen. Figure 3 shows such a generic potential, with the scalar field displaced from the minimum and trying to reach it. Edited August 3, 2022 by Kartazion
Bufofrog Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 Your just not going to answer my questions? I don't understand your reluctance. Since you seem adverse to discussing the Y-axis, could you at least state what the X-axis is, it is not labeled. Is it the radius of the universe?
swansont Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Kartazion said: Everyone knows you're unable to provide a source for what you're saying. You put yourself in a very awkward position. Now I'm waiting to see what you're going to answer me. ! Moderator Note That we’ve seen this before? https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/122571-associate-a-harmonic-oscillator-with-the-functioning-of-the-universe/#comment-1147154 https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/120416-anharmonic-oscillator/page/11/#comment-1140394 https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/125640-unification-of-quantum-mechanics-by-qft-and-gravitational-oscillator-revision-of-the-higgs-potential-in-the-higgs-field-in-relation-to-singularity-avoidance-and-correction-of-the-metastability-of-the-true-false-vacuum/#comment-1184138 And threads were locked, with you being told not to bring the subject up again
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