popjinx Posted September 5, 2005 Posted September 5, 2005 So, I was assigned this homework problem about Hamiltonians, and I have no idea where I should begin to even attempt to solve it... Problem: A simple one-dimensional problem in physics is dropping an object of mass m from a height Xo under the influence of gravity, for which the Force=-mg, and the well-known trajectory is X=Xo-(1/2)gt^2. Find the Hamiltonian for this problem by explicitly evaluating the potential energy V, taking V=0 at X=0 (ground level), and show that dH/dt=0, or that H=E (total energy), a constant. Potential Energy V= mass*gravity*height or in this case V= mgXo
Tom Mattson Posted September 12, 2005 Posted September 12, 2005 Sorry this has gone on so long without a response, but here goes. Potential Energy V= mass*gravity*height or in this case V= mgXo No, that means that V is a constant, which isn't true. You are supposed to make V(x) such that V(0)=0. That means that V(x)=mgx. The canonical way to start these problems is to begin by writing down the Lagrangian: [imath]L(x,\dot{x},t)=T-V=(1/2)m\dot{x}^2-mgx[/imath]. Note that our Lagrangian does not actually have an explicit time dependence. Now the Hamiltonian is a function of the momenta and the coordinates, not the velocities and the coordinates. So we find the momentum as follows: [imath]p=\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}}[/imath] [imath]p=m\dot{x}[/imath] [imath]\dot{x}=p/m[/imath]. I solved for [imath]\dot{x}[/imath] in the last step because when we write down the Hamiltonian we will use that relation to eliminate [imath]\dot{x}[/imath]. How we get the Hamiltonian. [imath]H=p\dot{x}-L[/imath] [imath]H=p\dot{x}-(1/2)m\dot{x}^2+mgx[/imath]. Make the substitution [imath]\dot{x}=p/m[/imath] and simplify.
DQW Posted September 13, 2005 Posted September 13, 2005 Alternatively, noticing that the Langrangian is not explicitly time-dependent, you can directly write H=T+V. PS : This is a purely classical problem - nothing quantum about it (in fact, I don't see any physical chem in it either).
Tom Mattson Posted September 13, 2005 Posted September 13, 2005 P-chem covers quantum mechanics. Since your average chemistry student does not take an intermediate course in mechanics, embedding in p-chem a crash course in classical mechanics is pretty standard.
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