Moontanman Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 My computer has slowed down to the point of almost being unusable, it started about a week ago and has only gotten worse. When I am on my desktop it will almost not let me open google. It takes several minutes just to get to google and the internet. I have run McAfee virus scan and Malwarebytes not to mention restarted my tower several times to no avail. The scans say my computer is fine. Does anyone have any idea about the cause and cure of this problem?
Sensei Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) ctrl-alt-del and you can observe CPU usage, memory usage, network usage. What do you get for each one? Start > Run.. and enter "Performance Monitor" and you have more detailed app for monitoring and/or recording logs about it. You did not give any details about your machine. OS version, CPU model (exact!), physical memory, drive is HDD, SSD or NVMe? Edited October 6, 2022 by Sensei
Moontanman Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 4:18 PM, Sensei said: ctrl-alt-del and you can observe CPU usage, memory usage, network usage. What do you get for each one? Expand Takes forever to just get the task manager to come up. CPU 18% more or less, it varies somewhat. Memory 49%, Network 0%, Disk 1%, GPU 1 to 3%, Network 0% On 10/6/2022 at 4:18 PM, Sensei said: Start > Run.. and enter "Performance Monitor" and you have more detailed app for monitoring and/or recording logs about it. Expand On 10/6/2022 at 4:18 PM, Sensei said: You did not give any details about your machine. OS version, CPU model (exact!), physical memory, drive is HDD, SSD or NVMe? Expand AMD Quad-core A6-6310, 6GB DDR3 SYSTEM MEMORY, AMD Radeon R4 Graphics, HP, windows 10
Sensei Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/6/2022 at 4:45 PM, Moontanman said: AMD Quad-core A6-6310, 6GB DDR3 SYSTEM MEMORY, AMD Radeon R4 Graphics, HP, windows 10 Expand Pretty ancient CPU. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-6310+APU&id=2290 I'd suggest buy new SSD 120 GB (it is 15 USD or so) and plug it instead of current drive, and install OS once again on it. On 10/6/2022 at 4:45 PM, Moontanman said: CPU 18% more or less, it varies somewhat. Expand If it is 25% and it has four cores, then one core in entirely stuck. In Task Manager identify which process is using CPU the most (sort by CPU usage - click on listview column). Edited October 6, 2022 by Sensei
Moontanman Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/6/2022 at 5:21 PM, Sensei said: Pretty ancient CPU. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A6-6310+APU&id=2290 I'd suggest buy new SSD 120 GB (it is 15 USD or so) and plug it instead of current drive, and install OS once again on it. If it is 25% and it has four cores, then one core in entirely stuck. In Task Manager identify which process is using CPU the most (sort by CPU usage - click on listview column). Expand It looks like the task manager is using the most of the CPU, the CPU varies between 20% and 0% tending toward the low end most of the time. This problem just started a few days ago, before that it was running like a swiss watch. Edited October 6, 2022 by Moontanman
Sensei Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) On 10/6/2022 at 5:31 PM, Moontanman said: It looks like the task manager is using the most of the CPU, the CPU varies between 20% and 0% tending toward the low end most of the time. This problem just started a few days ago, before that it was running like a swiss watch. Expand Try running OS in safe mode. https://www.google.com/search?q=safe+mode+windows+10 Does it help? Try restore system from restore point: https://www.google.com/search?q=system+restore+windows+10 On 10/6/2022 at 5:31 PM, Moontanman said: This problem just started a few days ago, before that it was running like a swiss watch. Expand ..it might be buggy gfx driver.. try downgrading.. Edited October 6, 2022 by Sensei 1
Moontanman Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 I am still working on it! It won't let me restore or do anything else that helps.
Externet Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 Hi. Try deleting items in the recycle bin that qualify. Delete temporary files. Shut off WiFi and plug the ethernet to evaluate difference. Check all the installed RAM memory reports complete. Check available unused space in the hard drive. 1
Moontanman Posted October 7, 2022 Author Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 6:07 PM, Sensei said: Expand Thank you Sensei for your help. I am not sure what to do next but as you probably know my computer skills are limited to using it not fixing it. If I can't figure it out I'll have to switch to a laptop my wife left, Again I do thank you for your help. On 10/7/2022 at 12:15 AM, Externet said: Hi. Try deleting items in the recycle bin that qualify. Expand Did it On 10/7/2022 at 12:15 AM, Externet said: Delete temporary files. Expand Did it as well. On 10/7/2022 at 12:15 AM, Externet said: Shut off WiFi and plug the ethernet to evaluate difference. Expand I'm not sure what you mean here. On 10/7/2022 at 12:15 AM, Externet said: Check all the installed RAM memory reports complete. Expand Not sure what you mean. On 10/7/2022 at 12:15 AM, Externet said: Check available unused space in the hard drive. Expand Did that as well.
Sensei Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) Simply buy 120 GB SSD drive in any neighbor computer shop for $15 and install fresh OS.. If it is not hardware issue it will help straight away.. Then you will be able to copy precious files from old drive. e.g. 13.59 usd on eBay https://www.ebay.com/b/120GB-Solid-State-Drives/175669/bn_56798086 Everybody should have emergency drive in emergency situations to be able to install fresh OS on it, and boot. And bootable pendrive with Live Linux e.g. Kali Live: https://www.kali.org/get-kali/ Any pendrive 4 GB+ will be good. Only 4GB on it will be used for data. But first, boot in safe mode, and check if it works good or not! https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+safe+mode+windows+10 Edited October 7, 2022 by Sensei 1
Sensei Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) On 10/6/2022 at 11:27 PM, Moontanman said: I am still working on it! It won't let me restore or do anything else that helps. Expand You should do it in safe mode.. https://www.google.com/search?q=restore+in+safe+mode Especially if safe mode is problem free.. Edited October 7, 2022 by Sensei 1
Moontanman Posted October 7, 2022 Author Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 11:52 AM, Sensei said: You should do it in safe mode.. https://www.google.com/search?q=restore+in+safe+mode Especially if safe mode is problem free.. Expand Believe it or not when i logged on this morning it allowed me to go online with no problems, it was still slower than it should have been by quite a bit but it did work. My computer skills are limited so i don't really understand what you are talking about but I'll try your idea once I review the links you suggested. It's been decades since i did anything in safe mode. Thank you again for helping me, I am not sure what it was I did to help the situation, I tried several things, I am not even sure it was anything I did. oh oh oh, I did go to task manager and shut down what appeared to be several versions of chrome running at the same time.
Sensei Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) People who own laptops often simply push the flip cover down, which hibernates the system, instead of shutting it down. This causes problems in some situations. I know that Windows Media Center (the TV Tuner application) in Windows 7 is buggy and consumes the entire disk until the system is properly shut down and restarted (which obviously kills services). I found a workaround - shut down only the service in the Administration Panel. The files are locked permanently by the service - no cleaning, deleting, etc. can remove them while the service is running. In Win10 WMC was removed, but some other service or app can have similar issues. Edited October 7, 2022 by Sensei
Janus Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 4:23 PM, Sensei said: People who own laptops often simply push the flip cover down, which hibernates the system, instead of shutting it down. This causes problems in some situations. I know that Windows Media Center (the TV Tuner application) in Windows 7 is buggy and consumes the entire disk until the system is properly shut down and restarted (which obviously kills services). I found a workaround - shut down only the service in the Administration Panel. The files are locked permanently by the service - no cleaning, deleting, etc. can remove them while the service is running. In Win10 WMC was removed, but some other service or app can have similar issues. Expand Another thing you should do from time to time is do a "Restart" rather than a "Shut down". I know it sounds counterintuitive, but Restart does a fresh reboot, While Shut down preserves a number of settings to speed things up upon turning the computer back on. If one of those processes is what is causing the problem, it will be carried over to when you turn the computer back on.
Moontanman Posted October 8, 2022 Author Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 4:23 PM, Sensei said: People who own laptops often simply push the flip cover down, which hibernates the system, instead of shutting it down. This causes problems in some situations. I know that Windows Media Center (the TV Tuner application) in Windows 7 is buggy and consumes the entire disk until the system is properly shut down and restarted (which obviously kills services). I found a workaround - shut down only the service in the Administration Panel. The files are locked permanently by the service - no cleaning, deleting, etc. can remove them while the service is running. In Win10 WMC was removed, but some other service or app can have similar issues. Expand Mine is a tower not a lap top but i will keep that in mind. On 10/8/2022 at 3:24 PM, Janus said: Another thing you should do from time to time is do a "Restart" rather than a "Shut down". I know it sounds counterintuitive, but Restart does a fresh reboot, While Shut down preserves a number of settings to speed things up upon turning the computer back on. If one of those processes is what is causing the problem, it will be carried over to when you turn the computer back on. Expand I restart at least once a week.
Sensei Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 3:28 PM, Moontanman said: I restart at least once a week. Expand You reboot the system when Microsoft wants you to, i.e. after downloading a major update such as drivers or the system.
Moontanman Posted October 8, 2022 Author Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 3:42 PM, Sensei said: You reboot the system when Microsoft wants you to, i.e. after downloading a major update such as drivers or the system. Expand I actually restart it once a week seperate from those things.
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