Neutral simultaneity for two frames.

[DimaMazin]

7 hours ago, Genady said:

No, any one of them. I'd start with something simple.

What experiment did Einstein present to the formula?

[Genady]

4 minutes ago, DimaMazin said:

What experiment did Einstein present to the formula?

The formula is a mathematical result. The question is experimental test of mathematics:

 

8 hours ago, DimaMazin said:

What experiment proves the mathematics?

 

If mathematics is correct, then the formula is correct. 

[DimaMazin]

11 minutes ago, Genady said:

The formula is a mathematical result. The question is experimental test of mathematics:

 

 

If mathematics is correct, then the formula is correct. 

We consider physics and the mathematics has no relation to the physics.

[Genady]

Just now, DimaMazin said:

We consider physics and the mathematics has no relation to the physics.

Mathematics has relation to everything. Physics included.

[DimaMazin]

42 minutes ago, Genady said:

Mathematics has relation to everything. Physics included.

Concrete mathematics was created by smoked brain. We cannot apply it anywhere.

[iNow]

Are you trying to win a bet with someone that you can be even more ridiculous and even more profoundly absurd than you already were in previous posts?

[Genady]

21 minutes ago, DimaMazin said:

Concrete mathematics was created by smoked brain. We cannot apply it anywhere.

YOU cannot apply it anywhere.

I guess, you understand Russian. This is for you:

Плохому танцору пол мешает.

[DimaMazin]

3 hours ago, iNow said:

Are you trying to win a bet with someone that you can be even more ridiculous and even more profoundly absurd than you already were in previous posts?

I made correct math. Genady don't understand it because he is ortodoxal. You don't understand it because you understant no math at all.

[iNow]

Sick burn, bruh

[DimaMazin]

On 8/16/2023 at 6:45 AM, iNow said:

Sick burn, bruh

My idea is so. Velocity v is between S and S' . gamma=1/(1-v²/c²)^1/2.

Object travels with velocity u  in rame S. Norm of relation between distances and times is defined by gamma.

u is rate of change of distance at time in S and it is the same when S travels in S'. We should only transform it relative to distance and time of S'. Then u transforms into u/gamma. And we should add velocity  v.

u'=v-u/gamma

Einstein's velocity u' is another and therefore it changes norm of contracted and not contracted distances and times. Therefore it is incorrect.

[Genady]

5 hours ago, DimaMazin said:

u'=v-u/gamma

The following example proves that your formula is incorrect.

Take v=.8c, u=-.8c. Plug them into your formula. It gives,

u'=1.28c

which is faster than the speed of light!

[DimaMazin]

7 minutes ago, Genady said:

The following example proves that your formula is incorrect.

Take v=.8c, u=-.8c. Plug them into your formula. It gives,

u'=1.28c

which is faster than the speed of light!

Thanks. 

[DimaMazin]

On 8/16/2023 at 2:56 AM, Genady said:

YOU cannot apply it anywhere.

I guess, you understand Russian. This is for you:

Плохому танцору пол мешает.

It is exactly incorrect because it violates energy momentum law.

S' is traveling with velocity v₁  in S. We acselerate body to S' then the body has momentum p₁ and energy E₁. Then we acselerate the body to v₂. Then the body has momentum p and energy E . In the same time  the body has momentum p₂ and energy E₂ in S'.

The enegy momentum law is

E₁=(p₁/p)²E          E₂=(p₂/p)²E

[Genady]

5 hours ago, DimaMazin said:

Then the body has momentum p and energy E

In what reference frame?

[DimaMazin]

5 hours ago, Genady said:

In what reference frame?

In S .

[Genady]

1 minute ago, DimaMazin said:

In S .

Then how does it work if p=0?

[DimaMazin]

24 minutes ago, Genady said:

Then how does it work if p=0?

Then p₁ and p₂=0. E=0

0/0=1

E₁=1²×0=0         E₂=1²×0=0

E is kinetic energy

E₁ and E₂  are kinetic energies.

Edited August 19, 2023 by DimaMazin

[Genady]

10 minutes ago, DimaMazin said:

Then p₁ and p₂=0

No, not necessarily.

 

11 minutes ago, DimaMazin said:

0/0=1

No.

[DimaMazin]

5 minutes ago, Genady said:

No, not necessarily.

 

No.

I don't understand you. 

0/0=1 Ask mathexperts.

[Genady]

2 minutes ago, DimaMazin said:

Ask mathexperts.

I am one. 

[DimaMazin]

55 minutes ago, Genady said:

I am one. 

Where?

[Genady]

Tel-Aviv University. Retired.

[DimaMazin]

22 minutes ago, Genady said:

Tel-Aviv University. Retired.

Do you want to dispruve the law? Or do you remake it?

[Genady]

Just now, DimaMazin said:

Do you want to dispruve the law? Or do you remake it?

Which law?

[DimaMazin]

22 minutes ago, Genady said:

Which law?

Teachets teached us 0/0=1

What is in Israel?