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Perihelion has the SLOWEST orbit_speed, (but fastest angle_speed).(?)


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Periside (e.g. perihelion, is the nearest distance to the sun, &)
 has the slowest orbit_speed, but fastest angle_speed (angular_velocity);
 &
 Apside (e.g. Aphelion is the farthest distance (away) from the sun)
 has the fastest orbit_speed, & slowest angle_speed (angular_velocity).

I distinguish
 between orbit_speed (vc=Cir/T=2*Pi*r/T);
 versus the angle_speed f=(theta/t)*(1 [cycle]/360°) =1/T

 called frequency,
 for the angle theta in (units) [degree(s)]=[°];
 t is an amount of time (duration, e.g. difference in time)
 in (units) [second(s)];
 & period T is the (amount of) time (duration), per cycle.

 (Disclaimer:
 otherwise Kepler's 3rd law
 is NONSENSE
 (for me),
 from who I pity)
.

Tycho (Brahe)
 (only) measured
 planets'(_position):
 angles
 & time
 (dates);
 so we
 can calculate
 the(ir orbits) angular_speeds,
 e.g. how fast arcs (=angles).
 are swept.

To summarize (my interpretation):
1.
Kepler found
 that (planets') obits
 were NOT perfect circles
 (& (he simply) approximated that (orbit)
 to an ellipse (math))
.
2.
Instead,
 an egg (shaped orbit)
 has only 1 focus (center),
 found near the smaller end.

(The conic_section
 was done (algebraically)
 from a cone

 (with its circular base sitting
 on the ground (y=0),
 & its apex (x,y=0,H=0,1) up
 at the top)

 having the same radius R=H=1
 equal to its height H
 (which seems to be the key
 to the results);
 & then normalizing
 by dividing
 by the egg's total (diagonal_)length L
 which starts at the cone's base_circumference (left_side, x,y=-1,0)
 going (diagonally up, to the right)
 thru the center axis (focus x,y=0,h)
 where the (partial) height (fraction) h
 is the eccentricity (Epsilon);
 (& continues till it pierces (out, thru) the cone's right side).
Your mathematicians
 should be capable
 of similar results.
If you DON'T believe me
 you can form bread dough
 & cut it, appropriately.)
 
Equal arcs (=angles) are swept [out]
 in equal times.
3.
A circular orbit_period
 T=2*Pi*((r/g)^0.5), g=ac
 (has a formula
 similar to a Pendulum's_period)

 which is similar
 to Newton's centifugal_acceleration
 ac=vc2/r
 if ac=g.
Why should an orbit_speed vc
 increase
 with smaller radius?
E.g. For very small eccentricities?
(It does NOT, because..)
There is NO consistency,
 when extrapolating
 to large(r) eccentricities.
Nature does NOT abruptly change her laws;
 (but) men do.
Especially when they did NOT understand.

Edited Tuesday at 08:18 AM by Capiert
Corrected.
 
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