Phi for All Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 11:36 PM, iNow said: Do fish dance? Expand They should, they look good in tails. But they tend to shy away from poles.
iNow Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 12:06 AM, Genady said: Here they do: Expand Nice! Where is here?
Genady Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 12:47 AM, iNow said: Nice! Where is here? Expand On the reefs of Bonaire.
iNow Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 Separate, but related. This just aired tonight and makes the answer to my question feel far more obvious (some seriously incredible film):
Genady Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 1:36 AM, iNow said: Separate, but related. This just aired tonight and makes the answer to my question feel far more obvious (some seriously incredible film): Expand Oops?
iNow Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 Oops, what? Maybe video is unavailable outside the US??? It’s a PBS show (public broadcasting)
Genady Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 2:33 AM, iNow said: Oops, what? Maybe video is unavailable outside the US??? It’s a PBS show (public broadcasting) Expand Yes, it says, unavailable. But I can see other PBS videos. Also, sometimes I get a message saying something like, unavailable in your area, but this just says, "This video is not available." Well, I don't think you can do anything about it
iNow Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 That’s a shame. It was a beautiful short film. Try searching: PBS Nature Soul of the Ocean
Moontanman Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Yes fish dance, watching their mating dances is one of the rewards of fish keeping! 1
Genady Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 12:06 AM, Genady said: Expand I've interpreted this dance as a "war dance" rather than a mating dance: Quote Considering general patterns of reef fish behaviors, the paired behavior reported here could be interpreted either as spawning or as an agonistic encounter between two males. P. maculatus pair spawning consists of a female rising in the water column, a male coming alongside her, and then both quickly swimming 2 m - 3 m at about 45 degrees up, spawning, breaking off, and returning to the bottom [5]. The behavior reported here was different. No eggs and milt were seen, while they are easily observable in P. maculatus spawning [6]. The fish were similar in size and shape while male P. maculatus differ from females [7, 8]. Consequently, this new behavior likely was an agonistic behavior between two males. The third P. maculatus in the vicinity during the last two observations presumably were females. … The interactive wriggling of barbels could constitute a competitive comparison of barbels by two males, similar to male insects comparing their antennas, and to male deer comparing their antlers. Expand 1
TheVat Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 11:36 PM, iNow said: Do fish dance? Expand Yes. If you turn up the bass. 3
iNow Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 5:21 PM, TheVat said: Yes. If you turn up the bass. Expand You know it's all about that bass, no treble... lol 1
iNow Posted January 27, 2023 Author Posted January 27, 2023 I thought perhaps this topic might generate cool tangents like "what does it mean to dance?" or "what is a fish?" or "is there music in the ocean?" but that flopped
Moontanman Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 4:31 PM, iNow said: I thought perhaps this topic might generate cool tangents like "what does it mean to dance?" or "what is a fish?" or "is there music in the ocean?" but that flopped Expand What is a fish in the most interesting of those questions. Depending on how you define "taxon" we either are fish or fish is not a meaningful label for vertebrates. https://www.mun.ca/biology/scarr/Taxon_types.htm Quote A taxon (pl. taxa) is any group of organisms that is given a formal taxonomic name. Loosely, a monophyletic taxon is one that includes a group of organisms descended from a single ancestor , whereas a polyphyletic taxon is composed of unrelated organisms descended from more than one ancestor. Expand 1
Sensei Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) On 1/26/2023 at 2:33 AM, iNow said: Oops, what? Maybe video is unavailable outside the US??? It’s a PBS show (public broadcasting) Expand I see: https://www.youtube.com/?embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scienceforums.net%2F instead of the video id.. Edited February 4, 2023 by Sensei
iNow Posted February 4, 2023 Author Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/4/2023 at 3:51 AM, Sensei said: video id Expand watch?v=X7pTrPUGYek
Phi for All Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 4:31 PM, iNow said: "is there music in the ocean?" Expand It's piped through speakers on the Yellow Submarine. 1
geordief Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 5:21 PM, TheVat said: Yes. If you turn up the bass. Expand I tried telling that quip to my daughter but just got a deadpan expression.
Phi for All Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 3:19 PM, geordief said: I tried telling that quip to my daughter but just got a deadpan expression. Expand Did you pronounce it bass (as in mass) or bass (as in mace)? On 1/27/2023 at 4:31 PM, iNow said: "what does it mean to dance?" Expand ... and walleye enjoy it as I mullet over? Eel take you in his arms 'cause you're the gill of his breams, and you'll blush when you see the ocean's bottom! I have to stop surfing the net! 1
iNow Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 Lol. Nice^ What got me thinking about this topic was how rhythms and movement are everywhere... our heartbeat, our circadian rhythms, the day night cycle, the phases of the moon... we feel/hear within the mothers womb... the swooshing and flowing of her movements and her rhythms... it's everywhere. And I realized, this is common across animal species, and likely fish too... these cycles and movements and waves... we upon hearing and feeling these waves often dance to them, enjoy music as another type of wave. We even seek out music based on our mood, and our moods change when listening to different music or sounds. So, why not fish too? We're not THAT different in this context, after all. And this thread seems to have confirmed that, even if only a bit. 1
Genady Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 5:57 PM, iNow said: Lol. Nice^ What got me thinking about this topic was how rhythms and movement are everywhere... our heartbeat, our circadian rhythms, the day night cycle, the phases of the moon... we feel/hear within the mothers womb... the swooshing and flowing of her movements and her rhythms... it's everywhere. And I realized, this is common across animal species, and likely fish too... these cycles and movements and waves... we upon hearing and feeling these waves often dance to them, enjoy music as another type of wave. We even seek out music based on our mood, and our moods change when listening to different music or sounds. So, why not fish too? We're not THAT different in this context, after all. And this thread seems to have confirmed that, even if only a bit. Expand This is what you mean, right?
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