MJ kihara Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 On a serious note, its deeper than this maybe logic will take us to everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJ kihara Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 Its all about the content.all the same whats the appropriate file to be attached? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJ kihara Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 As I move (spin) into the unknown (spacetime fabric) I encounter disturbances(quantum fluctuations) I stretch my primordial arms(primordial Higgs like field) to swim, you won't catch me, though the arms drag (mass) me, they are still primordial , I become a ghost (NEUTRINO),love me like that am a wanderer.. neutrino oscillation.pdf -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJ kihara Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 The PDF diagram...I want it to incite conversation about why Neutrino oscillate within it's three tiny masses, when it's detected,and probably answer the same question. In this case the diagram helps me initiate the dicussion,I intend to use such short diagrams to provoke scientific rethink of our current understanding of the universe. What's new in science? Maybe logic will lead us to the simplest things under our nose hidden from view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, MJ kihara said: The PDF diagram...I want it to incite conversation about why Neutrino oscillate within it's three tiny masses, when it's detected,and probably answer the same question. In this case the diagram helps me initiate the dicussion,I intend to use such short diagrams to provoke scientific rethink of our current understanding of the universe. What's new in science? Maybe logic will lead us to the simplest things under our nose hidden from view. IIRC they oscillate because their mass and flavor do not commute. This is logical and simple. It is not new though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ kihara Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 'don't commute' let us keep it plain..anyway,why do they have in the first place mass? and the masses are not the same? flavour why have three of them? leave alone it's anti-particles. The diagram has more than meets the eye...hhhh..moderate scientific terms it can make an average head(mine)spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, MJ kihara said: why do they have in the first place mass? There are couple suggested mechanisms on how neutrinos acquire mass. 19 minutes ago, MJ kihara said: the masses are not the same? This is not specific for neutrinos. Other particle masses differ between generations as well. Electron - muon - tauon. Down - strange - bottom quarks. Up - charm - top quarks. 21 minutes ago, MJ kihara said: flavour why have three of them? leave alone it's anti-particles. This is not specific for neutrinos as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ kihara Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 The main point is why? 'not specific to neutrino' there is where the issue is. Neutrino is unique on itself therefore the ' why?' should not be tagged to the others. They is the question of mass and quark generations.the 'why?' should help us understand that. Anyway (further clarification) from the PDF diagram the arrows direction tells us alot,reverse every arrow and u end-up getting anti Neutrino..in the same diagram there is 'primordial Higgs field' our(Neutrino) small masses,the issue of flavour,in the diagram if we pair the arrows and oscillate within the pairs we end up with three flavors. Then the same problem 'why?' arises, that is, the direction of arrows.And leads us to another issue 'where from?' let us digest that. My take,Neutrino is more 'fundamental' than the other flavored particles i.e it intiates formation of flavors and mass in other elementary particles (or it's at that initial point where those properties emerge from). About being a 'ghost and a wanderer' in the universe..hhhh it's a moderator..it smoothen Spacetime fabric by picking quantum fluctuactions here and throwing them there therefore helps in distributing energy density in the universe as it expand. Hope The moderator won't throw me away(it's a joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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