Nature needs chaos -Rewiggling Swindale Beck

[studiot]

A most interesting piece of conservation by the RSPB (Royal Society for the Protection of Birds) at a small river in Cumbria, called Swindale Beck.

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"Nature needs chaos, it needs randomness," says Lee Schofield from the RSPB.

For the benefit of non UK members, the RSPB owns some very important wildlife sites around the country and has promoted some innovative and imaginative successful conservation projects.

But what they say about the river and environmental change is very interesting and encouraging.

 

How 'rewiggling' Swindale Beck brought its fish back - BBC News

Edited April 25, 2023 by studiot

[StringJunky]

We need to increase/facilitate stochastic processes to help nature, when we've been trying to remove them for control and predictability. This seems to be lesson. We need to aim for a better balance between allowing nature to do its thing and meet our needs. I made a couple of small waterfallsin a straight length of open drain and it did wonders further down with new different water plants establish. The EA even fixedv them when collapsed and reinforced  where the flow was eroding the sides but, I think got too muchand they removed all pertubative materials and now dead, straight, smooth, dingy looking bit of water is flowing.... like a drain.

 

[Sensei]

@StringJunky To some extent I agree with you - people want land for farms.. The land around rivers is the best, with many nutrients provided over centuries.. So people are trying to regulate rivers so they flow straight instead of meandering..

For months, years, or a dozen years, it can work. But when the water is too much and flows too fast (because it no longer meanders), flooding occurs.. and this is the result of actions of human-politics-idiots done dozen years earlier.. They are dead, or almost dead retires and result of their action is death of people in the future..

 

[StringJunky]

4 minutes ago, Sensei said:

@StringJunky To some extent I agree with you - people want land for farms.. The land around rivers is the best, with many nutrients provided over centuries.. So people are trying to regulate rivers so they flow straight instead of meandering..

For months, years, or a dozen years, it can work. But when the water is too much and flows too fast (because it no longer meanders), flooding occurs.. and this is the result of actions of human-politics-idiots done dozen years earlier.. They are dead, or almost dead retires and result of their action is death of people in the future..

 

Yes, somehow, we need to instil a sense of continuity and responsibility to foster a more nurturing approach when each successive generation takes the reins of government.

[Sensei]

1 hour ago, StringJunky said:

We need to increase..

...people's general understanding of nature....

i.e. if you go to such a place and straighten the river, you don't understand nature, or you understand and know you are doing something wrong.. which can end in disaster..

1 hour ago, StringJunky said:

Yes, somehow, we need to instil a sense of continuity and responsibility to foster a more nurturing approach when each successive generation takes the reins of government.

In a capitalist country? That's not possible..

In a capitalist country everything revolves around money..

Want to reduce the amount of CO₂ in the atmosphere? They introduced taxes on CO₂.. WTF? WTF!!!

Now they are fighting 1) themselves, 2) the mobsters who abused the system, 3) the financiers/bankers (they bought certificates when they were cheap and sold them when they were expensive - any normal capitalist would have done the same thing)!

 

A tax to solve the problem? If a politician is a criminal and wants to steal state money, they will solve the problem by introducing a tax, a fine, a penalty.. They only introduce more problems than they solve..

 

If you put someone in jail, then jail is a punishment,

imprisonment and a fine is not punishment, it is creating more criminals in the future....

A incriminated person is only able to get the lowest paying jobs, so he/she is unable to pay the fines. After getting out of prison, he/she has to become a professional criminal just to pay the fines.. Welcome to the U.S.A..

(In Russia it was worse, they were sent to fight and died).

 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Sensei