Genady Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 Four bugs sit in a perfect 10x10 square, ABCD. Simultaneously, they start marching: A toward B, B toward C, C toward D, and D toward A. They march, spiraling, until they meet at the center. What distance does each bug cover?
studiot Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 It is important to specify the condition that the bugs always move directly towards their target, not just at the starting gun. This leads to the spiral path you mentioned. It also leads to an easy solution without adevanced maths.
Genady Posted May 16, 2023 Author Posted May 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, studiot said: It is important to specify the condition that the bugs always move directly towards their target, not just at the starting gun. This leads to the spiral path you mentioned. It also leads to an easy solution without adevanced maths. Yes, to all three points above.
zapatos Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Genady said: Yes, to all three points above. Spoiler Hmm. Given the 'easy solution' hint, does that then mean the answer is approximately 7.07?
Genady Posted May 16, 2023 Author Posted May 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, zapatos said: Hide contents Hmm. Given the 'easy solution' hint, does that then mean the answer is approximately 7.07? No, it is not.
md65536 Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 Spoiler Given the hint, I figure the easy solution involves that at every moment, B is moving perpendicularly to A? 1
Genady Posted May 16, 2023 Author Posted May 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, md65536 said: Hide contents Given the hint, I figure the easy solution involves that at every moment, B is moving perpendicularly to A? Correct. +1
Genady Posted May 16, 2023 Author Posted May 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, TheVat said: Reveal hidden contents 7.85? No.
TheVat Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 Spoiler Might help to switch to polar coordinates? So any bug's path is a logarithmic spiral. I get 10. Can that be right? Same as side of the square. 1
Genady Posted May 17, 2023 Author Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, TheVat said: Reveal hidden contents Might help to switch to polar coordinates? So any bug's path is a logarithmic spiral. I get 10. Can that be right? Same as side of the square. Spoiler Yes, it is right. +1. However, it can be achieved without calculating the spiral. Change reference frame, again. At any moment, the bugs are in the corners of a square, which rotates and shrinks. What does the bug A see? It sees the bug B always in a position perpendicular to the line between them. The bug B moves its legs, but being perpendicular to the line between them, it doesn't march toward or away from the bug A. So, to get to the bug B, the bug A should cover the distance between them, no more, no less. Which is 10. Edited May 17, 2023 by Genady
genio Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 Spiraling how the earth travels around the Sun or how Pluto travels around the Sun?
Genady Posted May 17, 2023 Author Posted May 17, 2023 3 hours ago, genio said: Spiraling how the earth travels around the Sun or how Pluto travels around the Sun? Spiraling like this:
TheVat Posted May 17, 2023 Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Genady said: Hide contents Yes, it is right. +1. However, it can be achieved without calculating the spiral. Change reference frame, again. At any moment, the bugs are in the corners of a square, which rotates and shrinks. What does the bug A see? It sees the bug B always in a position perpendicular to the line between them. The bug B moves its legs, but being perpendicular to the line between them, it doesn't march toward or away from the bug A. So, to get to the bug B, the bug A should cover the distance between them, no more, no less. Which is 10. Yes, I see the FoR aspect now. So simple, and there I was doing it the hard way. Haha. Edited May 17, 2023 by TheVat
Genady Posted May 17, 2023 Author Posted May 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, TheVat said: OK! Do you want to try the same problem but with three bugs in the corners of equilateral triangle? Six bugs in the corners of equilateral hexagon? Just for practice 1
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