Genady Posted May 23, 2023 Posted May 23, 2023 There is a round table and an unlimited supply of round tokens. Two players place in turn one token at a time anywhere on the table without overlapping other tokens. The last player to place a token, wins. What is a winning strategy? 1
Genady Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Phi for All said: Hide contents Bring a roll of tape. Spoiler Not allowed. Only the flat table and the flat tokens.
Genady Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheVat said: Flunitrazepam. Not allowed
Genady Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 This is an illustration / clarification of a possible state during the game:
TheVat Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Spoiler Measure table area. Measure coin, then determine square that precisely fits coin (each side is diameter of coin). Then you know if total available squares is odd or even. If even, let other player go first. If odd, go first.
Genady Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheVat said: Hide contents Measure table area. Measure coin, then determine square that precisely fits coin (each side is diameter of coin). Then you know if total available squares is odd or even. If even, let other player go first. If odd, go first. Spoiler It might work if all arrangements were like this: I don't think it helps with arrangements like these: , and many others.
Phi for All Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Is moving one token with another allowed as long as they don't overlap, or does "place" mean the token is fixed once it's on the table?
Genady Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Phi for All said: Is moving one token with another allowed as long as they don't overlap, or does "place" mean the token is fixed once it's on the table? Fixed.
mistermack Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 Spoiler Make sure your tokens are smaller than his. I don't get it. How can there be a winning strategy, when it would be available to both players?
Phi for All Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Genady said: Fixed. Must the tokens all fit within the perimeter, or can they be almost halfway over the line? Trying to eliminate any variables.
Genady Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, mistermack said: Hide contents Make sure your tokens are smaller than his. I don't get it. How can there be a winning strategy, when it would be available to both players? Spoiler In fact, only one of the players has a wining strategy. 1 minute ago, Phi for All said: Must the tokens all fit within the perimeter, or can they be almost halfway over the line? Trying to eliminate any variables. It doesn't matter. They can define this rule as they wish. (Of course, the tokens should not fall off the table ) All good questions.
TheVat Posted May 24, 2023 Posted May 24, 2023 I think you have to start first, and then: Spoiler Put coin in the middle, then mirror whatever placement your opponent makes. The last move will be yours, mirroring your opponent's previous move. (mirror along a diametric line that is created with their move and the center coin) 2
Genady Posted May 24, 2023 Author Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, TheVat said: I think you have to start first, and then: Hide contents Put coin in the middle, then mirror whatever placement your opponent makes. The last move will be yours, mirroring your opponent's previous move. (mirror along a diametric line that is created with their move and the center coin) Bravo! +1
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