Carpentry legacy of Jesus

[HawkII]

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What Bible verse says Jesus was a carpenter?

 

 

His trade is unmentioned in stories concerning Joseph, admittedly few. Only twice is the word carpenter used in the Christian scriptures: when Jesus is identified as “the carpenter's son” (Matt. 13:55) and “the carpenter” (Mark 6:3).

 

 

Would any of the Son of God's: Chairs, Tables, Three Legged Bar Stools  among other things remain intact today?

Edited November 6, 2023 by HawkII

[TheVat]

Perhaps you could check eBay?

[exchemist]

11 minutes ago, HawkII said:

 

 

Would any of the Son of God's: Chairs, Tables and Three Legged Bar Stools  among other things remain intact today?

It is unlikely domestic wooden artifacts of that type would have survived for 2000 years, even if Jesus did practice carpentry at some point, which seems unclear. 

[Phi for All]

Tektōn is the Greek word interpreted as "carpenter", but it can also mean "builder" or "laborer". 

[Peterkin]

1 hour ago, HawkII said:

Would any of the Son of God's: Chairs, Tables, Three Legged Bar Stools  among other things remain intact today?

Unlikely, unless they were stored under museum vault conditions. However, if they were builder-carpenters, some of the old buildings in Nazareth village - which is a museum - may have original beams lifted in place by Joseph and his sons.

[TheVat]

Blessed are the chaise makers.

Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturer of furniture products.

[pzkpfw]

I know what I say when I hit my thumb with a hammer.

[Endy0816]

I'm thinking chances are low that it would have been stored in ideal conditions and not lost due to fire in all this time.

 

What are the odds this old wooden cup I found on vacation there in a bog next to an olive grove, is worth anything?

[zapatos]

2 hours ago, Endy0816 said:

I'm thinking chances are low that it would have been stored in ideal conditions and not lost due to fire in all this time.

 

A fire would simply burn the hell out of it.

[mistermack]

10 hours ago, exchemist said:

It is unlikely domestic wooden artifacts of that type would have survived for 2000 years, even if Jesus did practice carpentry at some point, which seems unclear. 

I would have thought that, but which would last longer, a wooden table or a baby's foreskin? Because various bits of his foreskin have been worshipped down through the ages, by Popes and Holy Roman Emperors among others. So the one thing we can be sure of about Jesus is that he had a very big dick, going by the sheer quantity of foreskins that have been venerated down through history. Apparently, his umbilical cord was also saved and is stored away somewhere.

 

[TheVat]

In Chuck Palahniuk's "Choke," the main character is told that he was cloned from Jesus' foreskin.  

Seems prepuce-terous.  Skin DNA doesn't hold up that well.

Edited November 7, 2023 by TheVat

[exchemist]

5 hours ago, mistermack said:

I would have thought that, but which would last longer, a wooden table or a baby's foreskin? Because various bits of his foreskin have been worshipped down through the ages, by Popes and Holy Roman Emperors among others. So the one thing we can be sure of about Jesus is that he had a very big dick, going by the sheer quantity of foreskins that have been venerated down through history. Apparently, his umbilical cord was also saved and is stored away somewhere.

 

Are there relics of wooden objects supposed made by Jesus?

[exchemist]

7 hours ago, TheVat said:

In Chuck Palahniuk's "Choke," the main character is told that he was cloned from Jesus' foreskin.  

Seems prepuce-terous.  Skin DNA doesn't hold up that well.

Hoho.

Grotesquely, I see there was even some festival in Italy in which a version of this supposed relic was paraded annually, on the feast of the Circumcision of Our Lord (on 1st January, the Octave of Christmas, the feast day having been renamed by Pope John XXIII in honour of Mary). It seems there was a determined attempt to stamp out this particular superstition in 1900 or so, under threat of excommunication.

But the business of relics in general continues of course, tolerated, if not officially approved, by the church.

Facetious jokes aside, theologically, the circumcision of Christ has been considered symbolically important because it inducted him as a Jew, subject to the Law of Moses, it was the day he formally received his name, Jesus, and it was the first occasion on which his blood was spilled (seen as foreshadowing his eventual sacrifice on the cross). 

     

 

[mistermack]

6 hours ago, exchemist said:

Are there relics of wooden objects supposed made by Jesus?

Not that I know of. But there have been enough bits of the cross, that he carried and was nailed to, to make new one, so the problem of wood preservation isn't an absolute. And then there is the Shroud of Turin. It's linen, not wood, but they're both vegetable matter. The Shroud is claimed to date from the year 33, but carbon dating puts it at roughly the year 1300 or so. But either way, it shows that long-term preservation is possible. 

The oldest wooden man-made objects ever found are dated to between 1/2 a million and 1 million years old, so it's really just down to storage conditions. 

There were some wooden spears found in Germany along with evidence of butchering of horses, that are 300,000 years old. 

Schöningen spears - Wikipedia  

[J.C.MacSwell]

On 11/6/2023 at 3:45 PM, pzkpfw said:

I know what I say when I hit my thumb with a hammer.

When Jesus was young he came running into Joseph's workshop saying "Dad, did you call me?"

Joseph replied "No, sorry, I just hit my thumb with my hammer!".

[SeniorCitizen007]

An error occurred  in the transcription of the Greek text of Mark. It originally said: "Is not this the child (TEKNON), the son of Mary?" (They hadn't seen him since he was a child)

TEKNON became TEKTWN, "carpenter"  

Further on it suddenly says: "And they were offended at him" ... which doesn't make sense,

Mark 3,31-35 followed by verse 30 needs to be inserted before this

There are other examples in Mark of the text getting scrambled ... possibly because a damaged text was reassembled incorrectly.