Reality

[Chris Sawatsky]

Supposedly, by using a very powerful electron microscope, pictures of individual atoms have been taken but when they try to look inside the atom nothing makes sense as if the electron and protons were not effected by the laws of physics as we know them. A scientist was heard to say "It's as if the components of the atoms we looked at were everywhere and nowhere simultaneously". They were unable to get a clear picture of what goes on inside individual atoms. A somewhat simular thing is true about our star or any star for that matter. Apparently there are things about the sun that seem to be beyond the Laws of Physics as we understand them. Could it be that our "Reality only exists between the individual atom and an individual star? This would explain the phenomenon of matter. It is said that every atom is 99% empty space yet we have many types of solid matter all around us. Nothing exept mabey air seems to reflect the idea that atoms are 99% empty space. 

[Markus Hanke]

2 hours ago, Chris Sawatsky said:

but when they try to look inside the atom nothing makes sense as if the electron and protons were not effected by the laws of physics as we know them

We know perfectly well the laws of physics that describe electrons, protons and neutrons (quantum mechanics), as well their interactions. We also know how neutrons and protons come to be composed (quantum field theory), plus a lot more. It’s just that those laws aren’t the same as the classical mechanics we learn at school, but they are still well understood and extensively tested.

[Sensei]

6 hours ago, Chris Sawatsky said:

Nothing exept mabey air seems to reflect the idea that atoms are 99% empty space. 

Whether an object is in the plasma, gaseous, liquid or solid state depends on temperature and pressure. The same thing can be in several states of matter depending on the pressure or temperature used. Check the diagrams of molecules or elements to find out at what pressure and temperature they are in which phase.

Scientists began condensing gases long before you were born. One can measure mass of gas before liquefy and after and get the idea that they are the same with different volume (therefor different density), and the same number of atoms. As the liquid cools further, it transforms into a solid and reduces its density again (with a few exceptions, such as water).

Every engineer who works with trains and railroad workers knows that metals expand when exposed to heat and contract when exposed to cold. Railroad tracks can bend when exposed to too low or too high a temperature if welded too tightly, which can lead to disaster.

Look online for charts of elemental density versus temperature.

An increase in temperature above a certain threshold, which varies for each element, causes electrons to be released from the atom. This may allow a further reduction of volume.

The whole idea of a hollow atom came from the gold foil experiment, in which alpha particles passed through the metal almost transparently:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geiger–Marsden_experiments

..except for some that were deflected (when they hit the heavy gold nucleus)..

The use of the cloud chamber also shows how highly accelerated alpha (and other) particles accelerate and eject electrons from other elements in their path.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_chamber

 

 

Edited November 12, 2023 by Sensei

[exchemist]

6 hours ago, Chris Sawatsky said:

Supposedly, by using a very powerful electron microscope, pictures of individual atoms have been taken but when they try to look inside the atom nothing makes sense as if the electron and protons were not effected by the laws of physics as we know them. A scientist was heard to say "It's as if the components of the atoms we looked at were everywhere and nowhere simultaneously". They were unable to get a clear picture of what goes on inside individual atoms. A somewhat simular thing is true about our star or any star for that matter. Apparently there are things about the sun that seem to be beyond the Laws of Physics as we understand them. Could it be that our "Reality only exists between the individual atom and an individual star? This would explain the phenomenon of matter. It is said that every atom is 99% empty space yet we have many types of solid matter all around us. Nothing exept mabey air seems to reflect the idea that atoms are 99% empty space. 

No, you have just misunderstood what was being said about the interior of atoms.

The comment about "everywhere and nowhere" is simply a scientist trying to express in simple words what quantum mechanics tells us about how matter behaves at the atomic level. The electrons in atoms behave in some ways more like waves than particles, and this limits the amount of information about the location and properties of them that can be defined at any given moment.

Far from being "beyond the laws of physics", quantum theory, which is one of the most important advances in physics of the c.20th, accounts for such behaviour very successfully.

As for "solid matter", you need to understand what a solid is, in terms of physics and chemistry. Solids can indeed be thought of as 99% empty space. That has been known since the experiments of Geiger, Marsden and Rutherford, back in 1911. (Again, if you brush up on your history of science, some of this may become clearer to you.)  

[Bufofrog]

11 hours ago, Chris Sawatsky said:

Apparently there are things about the sun that seem to be beyond the Laws of Physics as we understand them.

Do you have a source for that?  I am not sure what you mean by beyond the Laws of Physics.

[iNow]

Sounds like platitudes heard in places like Sunday school are being mindlessly repeated here