Lance Cho Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 I am relativly new to this kind of thing. Anyway, I would like to see if anyone of my theorys might actually work. Copyright 2005 Theory of Lightning power My theory is fairly simple. A complex titanium box will be created. This box is covered in a very strong, electrical and thermal dispersal material. This container will have a very long lightning rod. On this rod will be a transformer like rod, that would decrease the strength of the lighning my 65%. Then the reduce shok will travel into the center of the container. The inside of the container would be lined with with powerfull electro magnetic lithiom battereis. MY theory is, If a positively charged lighning strike is contained inside this container, it could be used as a extremly, powerful, plenteful, and safe form of energy. I would like to have comments, improvements, and anything you have to offer. Lance Cho tr8b2@bellsouth.net AIM:lancecho007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 The problem is that lightning is of extraordinary voltage, and that it's static electicity. Static electricity is nearly impossible to store and use. I'd also like to see your device survive a few strikes. They're several times hotter than the surface of the sun, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Safely and effectively containing the energy from lightning strikes in chemical cells requires a bit more explanation than "the lightning goes into the box and gets stored". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Notice how lithium and lightning don't even like being in the same paragraph together, I can't imagine them getting along well inside a titanium box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezarashi Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Theory of Lightning power My theory is fairly simple. A complex titanium box will be created. This box is covered in a very strong' date=' electrical and thermal dispersal material. This container will have a very long lightning rod. On this rod will be a transformer like rod, that would decrease the strength of the lighning my 65%. Then the reduce shok will travel into the center of the container. The inside of the container would be lined with with powerfull electro magnetic lithiom battereis. MY theory is, If a positively charged lighning strike is contained inside this container, it could be used as a extremly, powerful, plenteful, and safe form of energy. [/quote'] Well honestly, it's not a theory strictly speaking. This sounds like a technology that can possibly be patented if you can get it to work and demonstrate it systematically to the US Patents Office. Lightning is an interesting source of power, nobody has really given serious thought about harnessing it. The problem is that lightning is a high current, very high voltage corona discharge. Basically lots of electrons coming through. You can't exactly "zap" the electrons into batteries. If we could, why do you think it actually takes time for you to charge those rechargeable batteries. With the advent of transformers, high voltages are certainly possible to achieve (see Tesla coil). Secondly, what's the idea of storing large amounts of energy in batteries? Again, if the technology was there, I think electric cars would be more common on the roads and my cruddy laptop wouldn't need to be plugged in every 3 hours >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 The inside of the container would be lined with with powerfull electro magnetic lithiom battereis. care to explain what an "electro magnetic (I assume you mean Lithium) Battery" is please? or give us a few links to such a creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdurg Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Also please tell us where we can get lightning to strike on command and with plenty of warning so that we can make sure everything is in the right area at precisely the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Cho Posted September 28, 2005 Author Share Posted September 28, 2005 Ok, first of all, the lighning isn't exactly stored inside a battery. The Inside of the box is actually a sphere. Inside the sphere is many battery like electro-magnetic items. Therefore the lightning will be jumping around. Since electricity seaks electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Ok, first of all, the lighning isn't exactly stored inside a battery. The Inside of the box is actually a sphere. Inside the sphere is many battery like electro-magnetic items. Therefore the lightning will be jumping around. Since electricity seaks electricity. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 It wouldn't be able to "jump around" indefinitely, you know. It would waste a lot of its energy creating light and heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 when I read the 1`st sentence I started thinking leyden jar, but then you went and spoiled it by introducing electro magnetic "items" can you draw this thing or show us some sources at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Cho Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 I wish I could draw. It's one of the things that unfortunatly I do not have. U guys might wanna know this, but I'm only 14 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmalluck Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Why capture lightning? The electrical potential between the ground and the clouds exist long before lightning occurs. Lightning is just a last ditch effort to balance the charge and that charge can be utilized long before that. Lightning occurs when the charge potential between ground and earth becomes so great that it overcomes the insulative properties of air. Lightning is the conductive path (just like a wire) that connects the two dislike charges and cancels them out. There's no reason why you couldn't build your own conductive path (think long copper tower) and balance out the charges long before it builds up to the point of a lightning strike. In doing so you'd have electrons moving up or down your tower that you could make work for you. Sure, it wouldn't be as spectacular as harnessing the power of a lightning bolt, but you could get just as much power out of it, spread over a longer time period, in a form that's totally usuable by today's technology. In fact, building an array of these towers would see that the lightning strike would not occur. You'd be making the area safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I wish I could draw. It's one of the things that unfortunatly I do not have. U guys might wanna know this, but I'm only 14 years old. non of us need a work of art, just Some idea of what you`re on about. why is your age anything to do with it? an Idea is an Idea, no matter Where or Whom it originates from, although in this Particular instance it does so far read like you`ve made a syntacticaly sound sentence usining as many "technical" words as you can muster and asked question using them! a bit like the "Eisenberg Compensator" in Star-Trek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Tycho?] Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I wish I could draw. It's one of the things that unfortunatly I do not have. U guys might wanna know this, [b']but I'm only 14 years old.[/b] I never would have guessed. Before you invent anything you'll probably want to learn about the basic ideas behind electricity. Saying things like "electricity seeks electricity" shows us that you dont seem to even know what electricity is, let alone how to do anything with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbart Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 As I understand it, a capacitor is a device that can be charged slowly and then it will dump thay charge quickly. Is there any way to create a capacitor that works the other way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 well, that`s what got me thinking about a Leyden Jar, but apperently not, it`s all about Lithium batteries and electro-magnetic "Things"???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Also please tell us where we can get lightning to strike on command and with plenty of warning so that we can make sure everything is in the right area at precisely the right time. Maybe by using laser beams that conduct the air. The Japanese did it. http://www.esdjournal.com/articles/lightn.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Nemesis Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Maybe by using laser beams that conduct the air. The Japanese did it. [url']http://www.esdjournal.com/articles/lightn.htm[/url] But that means putting energy into it which defeats the purpose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrus Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 Did you know that, when lightning occurs as we see it, it is actually the scond part of the lightning process ? So actually, an 'invisible' charge goes up from the ground upto the clouds and then we see the flash that strikes the exact same place the the charge went up from. So maybe, if we can actually cause/ control the place it goes up from, we could control where the lightning hits. An insulated conductor with a high static charge artificially created by direct contact/ induction... keep thinking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribble Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 What level of the atmosphere does lightning originate? How about a cable tethered between a grounding station and a high altitude balloon? Reverse the way a normal high voltage transformer works (tesla type stuff) to take in a high voltage static charge and 'convert'* it to usuable electricity? *I don't understand enough about static electricity to be able to explain how to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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