Externet Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Hi. In USA, houses made with paper and sticks use flimsy recessed box to connect clotheswasher hoses. How is it done 'surface-mount' on stone/block/brick walls ? Looking for such and cannot find in US
exchemist Posted February 24 Posted February 24 10 minutes ago, Externet said: Hi. In USA, houses made with paper and sticks use flimsy recessed box to connect clotheswasher hoses. How is it done 'surface-mount' on stone/block/brick walls ? Looking for such and cannot find in US I'm in the UK but surely all you need is a couple of U-brackets, like this, isn't it? :-
TheVat Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Surface mounting on concrete or stone is best avoided. Use an impact drill and masonry screws to attach a couple furring strips, then run your water lines up those. If the anchoring degrades you will still have the top of the strips secured to the top plate (assuming this is a basement). And attaching water pipes like PEX snugly to the wood strips protects them better from pets and small children. I.e. never have a pipe where it can be easily yanked on, as in the photo shown.
zapatos Posted February 24 Posted February 24 46 minutes ago, Externet said: In USA, houses made with paper and sticks use flimsy recessed box to connect clotheswasher hoses. How is it done 'surface-mount' on stone/block/brick walls ? Looking for such and cannot find in US Where have you found houses made of "paper and sticks"?
exchemist Posted February 24 Posted February 24 11 minutes ago, zapatos said: Where have you found houses made of "paper and sticks"? Sounds more like Japan. 43 minutes ago, TheVat said: Surface mounting on concrete or stone is best avoided. Use an impact drill and masonry screws to attach a couple furring strips, then run your water lines up those. If the anchoring degrades you will still have the top of the strips secured to the top plate (assuming this is a basement). And attaching water pipes like PEX snugly to the wood strips protects them better from pets and small children. I.e. never have a pipe where it can be easily yanked on, as in the photo shown. Presumably an operational hazard in the US. 😁
CharonY Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, zapatos said: Where have you found houses made of "paper and sticks"? I think it is in direct comparison to the more common brick houses in Europe. In comparison, the wood frames in North America do appear quite flimsy.
StringJunky Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, zapatos said: Where have you found houses made of "paper and sticks"? Your houses look very combustible relative to UK and much of Europe. The last time we had an inferno rip through a large bullt up area was 1666 when houses had a composition like yours today. Why are they not all brick/masonry in dense tree areas? Doesn't the US like bricks in general? IKEA-concept houses are not a good idea there by the looks of it. One of my uncles lives in Texas. My mum told me he bought a house, knocked it down and built another one... just like that. Edited February 24 by StringJunky
Externet Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 (edited) Thanks. Surface mounting would take the U straps/brackets, then. No 'pretty box' as in US at right image. One in a hundred -or more- US dwellings has masonry walls. New masonry/european construction foresees piping in walls to use the one at left, and a drain hole. Found no 'boxes' for additions on masonry. Edited February 24 by Externet
exchemist Posted February 24 Posted February 24 14 minutes ago, Externet said: Thanks. Surface mounting would take the U straps/brackets, then. No 'pretty box' as in US at right image. One in a hundred -or more- US dwellings has masonry walls. New masonry/european construction foresees piping in walls to use the one at left, and a drain hole. Found no 'boxes' for additions on masonry. Since the pipes and connection will all be behind the appliance, I should have thought there would be little need to worry about the appearance of the piping.
zapatos Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, StringJunky said: Your houses look very combustible relative to UK and much of Europe. Your houses look like they'll fall apart with the least bit shaking. 😁
StringJunky Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 minute ago, zapatos said: Your houses look like they'll fall apart with the least bit shaking. 😁 But building glorified sheds in forests... Not Too Swiftie or what?
zapatos Posted February 24 Posted February 24 14 minutes ago, StringJunky said: But building glorified sheds in forests... Not Too Swiftie or what? Flip a coin. Will a fire burn near your house in California, or will an earthquake hit.
TheVat Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, zapatos said: Flip a coin. Will a fire burn near your house in California, or will an earthquake hit. A wood frame house can be protected from fire (proper shingles or sheet metal roof, clearing vegetation near structure, mineral wool insulation, fire-rated sheathing etc.), but it's impossible to stop a strong temblor from cracking or even tearing apart masonry. Give me popsicle sticks any day. 25 minutes ago, Endy0816 said: This is how mine is attached. That's really a good idea to have those air chambers, which reduces the vibration as flow shuts off - "water hammer" would tend to tear those screws out of the concrete, otherwise. 4 hours ago, exchemist said: Presumably an operational hazard in the US. 😁 Bwahaha! 1
Endy0816 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheVat said: A wood frame house can be protected from fire (proper shingles or sheet metal roof, clearing vegetation near structure, mineral wool insulation, fire-rated sheathing etc.), but it's impossible to stop a strong temblor from cracking or even tearing apart masonry. Give me popsicle sticks any day. That's really a good idea to have those air chambers, which reduces the vibration as flow shuts off - "water hammer" would tend to tear those screws out of the concrete, otherwise. Glad to know what those are. Whoever did the plumbing before I bought the place really knew their business. Even the window AC unit has actual drain piping lol. 1 hour ago, Externet said: No drain nearby... Leaking water would flow outdoors. Edited February 24 by Endy0816
Endy0816 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) @Externet If you meant for the machine itself, there is a standpipe nearby that goes to the sewer and a separate(unused) pipe that runs through the wall to the backyard. Edited February 25 by Endy0816
Sensei Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) 13 hours ago, zapatos said: Flip a coin. Will a fire burn near your house in California, or will an earthquake hit. That sounds like a gamble! Edited February 25 by Sensei
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