user101 Posted March 19 Posted March 19 I'm currently doing a little research on Gematria. Would like to hear some opinions from the scientific community. Gematria Brief Intro: In its simplest form, gematria involves assigning a numerical value to each English letter. The numerical values are assigned based on the order of the letters in the English alphabet. For example, the letter A has a value of 1, the letter B has a value of 2, and so on. Gematria can be used in a variety of ways. It can be used to find hidden meanings in the Bible, For example, the name 'David' has a numerical value of 14, which is the same numerical value of the word 'king.' This suggests that David was destined to be king, In general, any words or phrases sharing the same numerical value are considered potentially connected and containing hidden meaning. You can read more about it here : Gematria Wikipedia | Gematria History And Its Present Usage Modern English Gematria Usage: Example 1: Entering the phrases "Thriller Album," "Grammy Award," "Chimpanzee Bubbles," and "Painkiller" into a Gematria Decoder reveals that they are all connected with "Michael Jackson." image showing "thriller album", "grammy award" and more has matching values (in red color) with "Micheal Jackson" Example 2: In the 2024 Taiwan presidential election, there were three candidates: Lai Ching-te, Hou Yu-ih, and Ko Wen-je. Entering their names into the Gematria Decoder revealed that only Lai Ching-te has a connection with the word "President," and indeed, Lai Ching-te emerged as the winner and became the President of Taiwan. If these results are pure coincidental, why are there so many relevant matches? Here are the questions: 1. How do you explain this phenomenon from the perspective of probability and coincidence? From the perspective of true believers, a single gematria value can be associated with many words and phrases. Making sense of them all involves connecting the relevant words and filtering out those that aren't relevant. This process requires strong intuition, knowledge of the subject of interest and unconventional thinking to establish connections and unveil hidden meanings. 2. How do you explain to true believers that their train of thought on gematria is seriously flawed?
exchemist Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, user101 said: I'm currently doing a little research on Gematria. Would like to hear some opinions from the scientific community. Gematria Brief Intro: In its simplest form, gematria involves assigning a numerical value to each English letter. The numerical values are assigned based on the order of the letters in the English alphabet. For example, the letter A has a value of 1, the letter B has a value of 2, and so on. Gematria can be used in a variety of ways. It can be used to find hidden meanings in the Bible, For example, the name 'David' has a numerical value of 14, which is the same numerical value of the word 'king.' This suggests that David was destined to be king, In general, any words or phrases sharing the same numerical value are considered potentially connected and containing hidden meaning. You can read more about it here : Gematria Wikipedia | Gematria History And Its Present Usage Modern English Gematria Usage: Example 1: Entering the phrases "Thriller Album," "Grammy Award," "Chimpanzee Bubbles," and "Painkiller" into a Gematria Decoder reveals that they are all connected with "Michael Jackson." image showing "thriller album", "grammy award" and more has matching values (in red color) with "Micheal Jackson" Example 2: In the 2024 Taiwan presidential election, there were three candidates: Lai Ching-te, Hou Yu-ih, and Ko Wen-je. Entering their names into the Gematria Decoder revealed that only Lai Ching-te has a connection with the word "President," and indeed, Lai Ching-te emerged as the winner and became the President of Taiwan. If these results are pure coincidental, why are there so many relevant matches? Here are the questions: 1. How do you explain this phenomenon from the perspective of probability and coincidence? From the perspective of true believers, a single gematria value can be associated with many words and phrases. Making sense of them all involves connecting the relevant words and filtering out those that aren't relevant. This process requires strong intuition, knowledge of the subject of interest and unconventional thinking to establish connections and unveil hidden meanings. 2. How do you explain to true believers that their train of thought on gematria is seriously flawed? I’m confused by this. How do you get 14 out of the letters in David? Isn’t v alone 22? Edited March 19 by exchemist
user101 Posted March 19 Author Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, exchemist said: I’m confused by this. How do you get 14 out of the letters in David? Isn’t v alone 22? The actual example was in Hebrew. But the above example is in English ( just an example showing how the numbers and letters are assigned).
exchemist Posted March 19 Posted March 19 1 hour ago, user101 said: The actual example was in Hebrew. But the above example is in English ( just an example showing how the numbers and letters are assigned). Ah Hebrew. Why don't you put in "ballocks" and see what matches you get? That's the sort of thing I would do to demonstrate what rubbish it all is. Have you tried something like that?
Bufofrog Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Humans are so good at finding patterns that can find a pattern where none exists, which is why I think numerology like this seems so intriguing to some people. It takes a bit of critical thinking to realize that there is really nothing there.
dimreepr Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) 6 hours ago, user101 said: I'm currently doing a little research on Gematria. Would like to hear some opinions from the scientific community. Gematria Brief Intro: In its simplest form, gematria involves assigning a numerical value to each English letter. The numerical values are assigned based on the order of the letters in the English alphabet. For example, the letter A has a value of 1, the letter B has a value of 2, and so on. Gematria can be used in a variety of ways. It can be used to find hidden meanings in the Bible, For example, the name 'David' has a numerical value of 14, which is the same numerical value of the word 'king.' This suggests that David was destined to be king, In general, any words or phrases sharing the same numerical value are considered potentially connected and containing hidden meaning. You can read more about it here : Gematria Wikipedia | Gematria History And Its Present Usage Modern English Gematria Usage: Example 1: Entering the phrases "Thriller Album," "Grammy Award," "Chimpanzee Bubbles," and "Painkiller" into a Gematria Decoder reveals that they are all connected with "Michael Jackson." image showing "thriller album", "grammy award" and more has matching values (in red color) with "Micheal Jackson" Example 2: In the 2024 Taiwan presidential election, there were three candidates: Lai Ching-te, Hou Yu-ih, and Ko Wen-je. Entering their names into the Gematria Decoder revealed that only Lai Ching-te has a connection with the word "President," and indeed, Lai Ching-te emerged as the winner and became the President of Taiwan. If these results are pure coincidental, why are there so many relevant matches? Here are the questions: 1. How do you explain this phenomenon from the perspective of probability and coincidence? From the perspective of true believers, a single gematria value can be associated with many words and phrases. Making sense of them all involves connecting the relevant words and filtering out those that aren't relevant. This process requires strong intuition, knowledge of the subject of interest and unconventional thinking to establish connections and unveil hidden meanings. 2. How do you explain to true believers that their train of thought on gematria is seriously flawed? If the authors of the bible planned to put their secrets into a bastardised version of their words, that's also translated into a language they couldn't possibly know about, using a number system they couldn't understand; then I guess there really is a God, who knew... 😇 Edited March 19 by dimreepr
swansont Posted March 19 Posted March 19 7 hours ago, user101 said: In its simplest form, gematria involves assigning a numerical value to each English letter. The numerical values are assigned based on the order of the letters in the English alphabet. For example, the letter A has a value of 1, the letter B has a value of 2, and so on. Gematria can be used in a variety of ways. It can be used to find hidden meanings in the Bible ! Moderator Note We often call this numerology. It's not science and this discussion has no place in a science forum.
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