Self-made billionaires (split from How come that a child of two non autistic people may have autism?

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1 minute ago, J.C.MacSwell said:

If Musk (or Swansont) had nothing to give in return, he probably wouldn't have seen much government money.

Value, is a different question...

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12 minutes ago, J.C.MacSwell said:

I don't think Swansont used any capitalist leverage to pry his salary out of the government, but just as there are differences there are similarities.

If that's what he was getting at...he's still right.

It seemed to me that what Sensei "was getting at" is that swansont and Musk both work for the government and are "self-made men". If you want that definition to stand, you're welcome to it. It seems worthless to me as an argument about billionaires, almost as worthless as continuing to nitpick about it. Thanks for the input though.