scherz0 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 What’s wrong with my reasoning in purple? Please pinpoint which sentence and step fails. I seek intuition. I DON’T want proofs, or formal arguments. Thanks! Presuppose lotteries let players pick any integer N≥32. Picking unpopular integers lowers your probability of winning lotteries. Why? Winning numbers range randomly from 1 to N. But you artificially narrow yourself to [32,N]. By disregarding [1,31], you flout the lottery’s random distribution of winning integers! As [1,N] contains more integers than [32,N], picking numbers ∈ [1,N] proffers more chances to win than picking ∈ [32,N]. Q.E.D. Here’s something you can do that might have an impact on your game: studies show that most people play numbers based on special days of the month, such as birthdays and anniversaries. So, numbers greater than the number of days in the month, or over 31, are less frequently played. If you do win with a less popular number, there may be less people to split a prize. So while picking these numbers won’t increase the odds of a win, it might increase the amount of a win. Anyhow, if you do play the lottery, you should _not_ play obvious combinations, or anything that can be described in one sentence, such as "the birthdays of my pets, increased by 5" (yes, there is going to be someone who has pets born on the same days as you, and who also thinks 5 is his lucky number). The only thing you can do to improve your situation is to pick an unpopular set of numbers to reduce the number of ways you split the prize should you win. You should also not pick the date - or any date for that matter. The arguments of picking unpopular numbers only matter if there is a jackpot that is divided among the winners. In that case you want unpopular numbers so you share less.
Genady Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Here is my intuition. Let's assume that I artificially narrow myself to the range [N, N]. I.e., my range contains only one integer. Does it lower my probability to win? No, it does not. The probability is still 1/N, like that of everyone else.
swansont Posted April 14 Posted April 14 It’s random - any pick has the same odds of winning. Picking unpopular number increases the odds that, if you win, you will be sole winner, or at least have to share with fewer people, as your quote says. So the expected payout increases.
Halc Posted April 18 Posted April 18 On 4/14/2024 at 3:59 PM, scherz0 said: By disregarding [1,31], you flout the lottery’s random distribution of winning integers! Non-sequitur. All numbers have equal chance of winning, so no choice, popular or not, alters your odds, but as swansont points out, unpopular numbers yield better average payouts. On 4/14/2024 at 3:59 PM, scherz0 said: As [1,N] contains more integers than [32,N], picking numbers ∈ [1,N] proffers more chances to win than picking ∈ [32,N]. Q.E.D. You seem to presume N is less than 64, which is not always the case. Even if it is the case, your conclusion is again a non-sequitur. Picking five random numbers under 32 gives the exact same odds of winning as picking 5 random numbers in the range of say 33 to 40. This is the simplest of mathematics: Every possible choice has the same odds as any other if the draw is random.
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