Maartenn100 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 The brain is nothing more than an electronic device. So, every electronic device with a lot of interconnected wires should be conscious too while switched on. We can use a bunch of steel wool and run electricity through it and we should have recreated a small artificial brain. The question is: how do you ask questions to it. -2
iNow Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Electronic devices aren’t plastic, nor effected in the same way by chemistry and experience. There’s a whole lotta wrong in your OP, and essentially nothing correct
Maartenn100 Posted April 17 Author Posted April 17 (edited) Think about it: the brain is nothing different than electricity flowing through wires. The brain is an electricity-producing machine. That's what we are. And electricity flowing through wires produces magnetism. And maybe, magnetism = consciousness. Edited April 17 by Maartenn100 -2
exchemist Posted April 17 Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, Maartenn100 said: Think about it: the brain is nothing different than electricity flowing through wires. The brain is an electricity-producing machine. That's what we are. And electricity flowing through wires produces magnetism. And maybe, magnetism = consciousness. This is stupid. A computer is not just wires. Only an idiot thinks that. Nor is a brain just a mass of biochemical wiring, either. Try to apply a bit of sense, for goodness sake.
Phi for All Posted April 17 Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Maartenn100 said: Think about it: the brain is nothing different than electricity flowing through wires. The brain is an electricity-producing machine. That's what we are. And electricity flowing through wires produces magnetism. And maybe, magnetism = consciousness. ! Moderator Note This isn't philosophy. If you think you can support your idea scientifically, I can move this to Speculations, but your premise is already over-generalized (brain = electronic device) and easy to poke holes in (chemical synapses have gaps that electric wiring doesn't).
Luc Turpin Posted April 17 Posted April 17 23 minutes ago, iNow said: Electronic devices aren’t plastic, nor effected in the same way by chemistry and experience. There’s a whole lotta wrong in your OP, and essentially nothing correct 4 minutes ago, exchemist said: This is stupid. A computer is not just wires. Only an idiot thinks that. Nor is a brain just a mass of biochemical wiring, either. Try to apply a bit of sense, for goodness sake. 1 minute ago, Phi for All said: ! Moderator Note This isn't philosophy. If you think you can support your idea scientifically, I can move this to Speculations, but your premise is already over-generalized (brain = electronic device) and easy to poke holes in (chemical synapses have gaps that electric wiring doesn't). For once, we all agree!
swansont Posted April 17 Posted April 17 39 minutes ago, Maartenn100 said: The brain is nothing more than an electronic device. So, every electronic device with a lot of interconnected wires should be conscious too while switched on. Logically incorrect, even if the premise is true. Equivalent to “All dogs are mammals. I am a mammal, therefore I am a dog.” 2
Sensei Posted April 17 Posted April 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Maartenn100 said: The brain is nothing more than an electronic device. So, every electronic device with a lot of interconnected wires should be conscious too while switched on. We can use a bunch of steel wool and run electricity through it and we should have recreated a small artificial brain. The most basic electrical devices consist of the following elements: a resistor, a capacitor and an coil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductor The most basic electronic devices have the above elements plus a diode (or equivalent vacuum tube), a transistor (or equivalent vacuum tube), integrated circuits, microcontrollers, and processors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_tube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit Integrated circuits, microcontrollers and processors are programmable, that is, they execute a program that someone wrote and upload to them or to RAM and/or ROM. Where stands your "steel wool" with the above? Edited April 17 by Sensei 1
TheVat Posted April 17 Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Maartenn100 said: We can use a bunch of steel wool and run electricity through it and we should have recreated a small artificial brain. Ahem.... 1
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