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[ImplicitDemands]

8 minutes ago, Ghideon said:

If you quote some specific book we might be able to adress misconceptions or errors.

 

The first phones did not digitize sounds. They transmitted analog signals. If you have a specific question about vintage phones and speakers I may provide some answers and practical insights about the signal chain from the microphone to the speaker. An possibly compare it to noice produced as a byproduct in lights and other electric appliances for additional insights. Are there any specific details you are curious about?

My point is these are physics questions. We obviously know enough about physics, we've been over it in the topic. I was just trying to clarify if the bar magnet could be controlled in the way that I described. One small element that everything else rested upon. 

[Ghideon]

On 6/24/2024 at 9:23 AM, ImplicitDemands said:

My point is these are physics questions. We obviously know enough about physics, we've been over it in the topic. I was just trying to clarify if the bar magnet could be controlled in the way that I described. One small element that everything else rested upon. 

 

On 5/22/2024 at 12:49 AM, ImplicitDemands said:

As in the port where the fiber optic cable connects to battery a, photoionization occurs and the conductor connecting battery a to battery b adopts one atomic orbital which attracts one end of the bar-magnet in an induction motor, then the orbitals reverse throughout the conductor as the positive ionized battery a takes back the additional electrons from the negatively ionized batter b, attracting the other end of the bar magnet in the Induction Motor. 

A bar magnet is a simple permanent magnet with a north (N) and a south (S) pole. 

Bar magnets are not used in standard induction motors.

As far as I know standard induction motors rely on the interaction between the rotating magnetic field generated by the AC supply in the stator and the induced currents in the rotor to produce torque. Permanent magnets, such as bar magnets, are not part of this design because the motor operates based on electromagnetic induction principles, not on permanent magnetism.

It seems you are combining technical terms in ways that do not follow textbook definitions or established engineering practices, making it difficult to understand your discussion. 

[ImplicitDemands]

9 hours ago, Ghideon said:

making it difficult to understand your discussion

Having trouble following? 

[Phi for All]

13 hours ago, ImplicitDemands said:

Having trouble following? 

If you used the whole quote, your question is answered. "It seems you are combining technical terms in ways that do not follow textbook definitions or established engineering practices, making it difficult to understand your discussion." IOW, you put terms together in a non-mainstream way, which is hard for anyone who's studied this stuff to figure out. You're serving word salad when clarity is the goal.

If you're having trouble following, read all of what's being written. Don't you assume others are reading all of what you write?

[Ghideon]

On 6/26/2024 at 2:25 AM, ImplicitDemands said:

Having trouble following? 

Generally, that’s not an issue for me.

[ImplicitDemands]

On 6/25/2024 at 9:33 AM, Ghideon said:

Permanent magnets, such as bar magnets, are not part of this design because the motor operates based on electromagnetic induction principles, not on permanent magnetism.

As I was taught, some more basic designs actually do switch charge on either end of the permanent magnet to produce torque. I spent a very long time trying to figure out how to do this. So the post on the bottom on the bottom of the last page is the product of that thank tank and you still haven't told me if it could work. 

[ImplicitDemands]

On 6/27/2024 at 11:51 AM, Ghideon said:

Generally, that’s not an issue for me.

Let me break down the question bit by bit so you can google check again (which seems to be the only thing anyone does on here).

We have the bar magnet in between two other components. Given the link I gave about orbital magnetism, is it possible to have the North magnet magnetized to ions running one direction as current, and for the South magnet to be magnetized to ions running the opposite direction as current?

The two components in question are identical in nature. They have three parts, two batteries and one conductive wire connecting them. These objects are parallel to the bar magnet, on opposite sides.

1. If the batteries are simply a material that undergoes photoionization, is it possible that the conductive wire will carry the current if only one battery is illuminated? 

2. If so, will this process either leave behind positive ions, or create negative ions as the electrons flow into the second battery? 

Edited June 28 by ImplicitDemands

[Ghideon]

On 6/25/2024 at 4:33 PM, Ghideon said:

 

On 5/22/2024 at 12:49 AM, ImplicitDemands said:

As in the port where the fiber optic cable connects to battery a, photoionization occurs and the conductor connecting battery a to battery b adopts one atomic orbital which attracts one end of the bar-magnet in an induction motor, then the orbitals reverse throughout the conductor as the positive ionized battery a takes back the additional electrons from the negatively ionized batter b, attracting the other end of the bar magnet in the Induction Motor. 

A bar magnet is a simple permanent magnet with a north (N) and a south (S) pole. 

Bar magnets are not used in standard induction motors.

(bold by me)

6 hours ago, ImplicitDemands said:

As I was taught, some more basic designs actually do switch charge on either end of the permanent magnet to produce torque.

Basic designs of induction motors do not contain permanent magnets.

 

(If you wish to discuss other types of electrical motors please specify which design you are referring to)

[ImplicitDemands]

2 hours ago, Ghideon said:

(bold by me)

Basic designs of induction motors do not contain permanent magnets.

 

(If you wish to discuss other types of electrical motors please specify which design you are referring to)

I think you're just doing a google search of terms because the way Induction Motor was taught to me in a college course, there was a bar magnet. 

This utuber explains it as having a bar magnet

In fact even if you are relying solely on google search:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-21155-x

Because it's the same principle, I believe the bar magnet is usually used as a visual I'm just literally putting one in the mechanism. 

4 hours ago, ImplicitDemands said:

We have the bar magnet in between two other components. Given the link I gave about orbital magnetism, is it possible to have the North magnet magnetized to electrons running one direction as current, and for the South magnet to be magnetized to electrons running the opposite direction as current?

I used the word ions in bolded, this was not the right word. If you're going to finally answer the question please read this first. 

[Sensei]

15 hours ago, ImplicitDemands said:

I think you're just doing a google search of terms because the way Induction Motor was taught to me in a college course, there was a bar magnet. 

There are different types of motors. Induction motor is just one of types.

The difference between the two types can, of course, be found on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_motor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_magnet_motor

Look at Tesla's design in the photo. There is no permanent magnet. We can only see the windings on both the stator and rotor.

Edited June 29 by Sensei

[ImplicitDemands]

4 hours ago, Sensei said:

There are different types of motors. Induction motor is just one of types.

The difference between the two types can, of course, be found on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_motor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_magnet_motor

Look at Tesla's design in the photo. There is no permanent magnet. We can only see the windings on both the stator and rotor.

Stop making such a huge deal about the magnet being in the mechanism. You're too busy, collectively, trying to sound right instead of adressing the question I've brought up.

Edited June 29 by ImplicitDemands

[Ghideon]

21 hours ago, ImplicitDemands said:

I think you're just doing a google search of terms because the way Induction Motor was taught to me in a college course, there was a bar magnet. 

This utuber explains it as having a bar magnet

The experiment in the video you shared demonstrates electromagnetic induction with a moving bar magnet. The video does not show an induction motor (see @Sensei's response for details that may help). 

(When I studied electromagnetic fields at university we used text books; Google search was not yet invented.) 

[Sensei]

10 hours ago, ImplicitDemands said:

Stop making such a huge deal about the magnet being in the mechanism. You're too busy, collectively, trying to sound right instead of adressing the question I've brought up.

...then stop pretending to have wisdom you don't have..

[ImplicitDemands]

16 hours ago, Sensei said:

...then stop pretending to have wisdom you don't have..

I am talented, it isn't manifested in wisdom but intuition. Like intuiting where the power rule came from, first two terms when you get the polynomial of (x+1)^2 because the second dimension is a square of the first. There are certain things I may have actually intuited, even in this topic, that we'll never know because it takes more than being able to google terms to be an autodidact. I don't even find the research done here by other members to be very useful at anything other than saving face using a group dynamic that abuses the rep function. 

Categorical classification (googling terms that have a loose meaning in practice) has nothing to do with understanding (how I put my mechanism together).

Okay, so it was said earlier it was said that the only thing that could rule out an EM motor from being an induction motor is simply the existence of a permanent magnet. Even if it does have one and it admittedly does the exact same thing (EM induction) in the video. This is why you shouldn't rely solely on googling terms.

 

Edited June 30 by ImplicitDemands

[iNow]

2 hours ago, ImplicitDemands said:

it isn't manifested in wisdom

Completely agree