dimreepr Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) I have no idea why I'm getting caught up in this national fervour, I don't even like football as a spectator sport, but it's 'coming home'...ย ๐ค๐๐ Funny old life init.ย ๐ง Edited July 13 by dimreepr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 55 minutes ago, dimreepr said: I have no idea why I'm getting caught up in this national fervour, I don't even like football as a spectator sport, but it's 'coming home'...ย ๐ค๐๐ Funny old life init.ย ๐ง Patriotic fervour strikes when and where you least expect it. I know the feeling. I will take a seat on this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigL Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Italy may be out, but England, my ''back up' team, is still in there. No patriotic fervor here, but they do have some of the best players in the world at the moment. Unfortunately, individual brilliance can't make up for lack of team play ( or coaching ), where Spain has them beat. Im hoping they get lucky again; sorry Joigus, but I'll be wearing my English national jersey tomorrow while watching the game. And a shout-out to Canadian futbol players and fans. Canada did extremely well in Copa America, losing only to Argentina ( twice ). Great 'warm-up' for the World Cup in North America in two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 19 minutes ago, MigL said: Unfortunately, individual brilliance can't make up for lack of team play ( or coaching ), where Spain has them beat. Im hoping they get lucky again; sorry Joigus, but I'll be wearing my English national jersey tomorrow while watching the game. It's OK, I understand. England would be my favourite in any other instance too. We hedge our bets in Spain. That's why we secured Alcaraz in Wimbledon's final too. Double the chance of getting a happy ending come Sunday. ...or double the disappointment though if both fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janus Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 We'll be rooting for England in our household, as my wife has English ancestry on her dad's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 When you support England, you know the meaning of disappointment... like our weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Externet Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Thank you again, Spainย ๐ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigL Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Congrats @joigus; a well deserved win. ( we'll do this again at the Worlds in two years ) It seems England's national is the Toronto Maple Leafs ( hockey ) of the soccer world. ( 68 years without a major trophy win ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joigus Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, MigL said: Congrats @joigus; a well deserved win. ( we'll do this again at the Worlds in two years ) It seems England's national is the Toronto Maple Leafs ( hockey ) of the soccer world. ( 68 years without a major trophy win ) Thanks, MigL. It was a closer shave than it seems now though. If Guรฉhi's header had gone in... I'm glad for the political consequences in Spain in terms of inducing a certain feeling of unity. This will last a couple of weeks, I reckon. I know very little about hockey though. Have TML been finalists many times with little to show for it? Something similar can be said for Netherlands in the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) My guts were correct. ย England need to stop 'bigging it up' pre-matchย and just shut up and get on with the job. Edited July 16 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 16 hours ago, StringJunky said: ย England need to stop 'bigging it up' pre-matchย and just shut up and get on with the job. Now where's the profit in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 9 minutes ago, dimreepr said: Now where's the profit in that? Think of the the profit if they actually won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 Just now, StringJunky said: Think of the the profit if they actually won. TBH, I don't think a forensic auditor could discern a difference...ย ๐ง They couldn't recognise the association of the cadence of the walk to the bank with happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapatos Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, StringJunky said: Think of the the profit if they actually won. I agree. When my home town baseball team won the World Series, ticket sales, merchandise sales, and television viewership went way up the next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigL Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 20 hours ago, joigus said: I know very little about hockey though. Have TML been finalists many times with little to show for it? The Toronto Maple Leafs last won the Stanley Cup in 1967, but everyย year their many fans say "this is the year". The TML are one of the richest clubs in the NHL, and have some of the best players, who always underperform in the play-offs. England last won their only major international competition, the World Cup, in 1966, yet every 2-4 years fans say "it's coming home". Similarly, the Premier League is the richest in the world, and their players among the best in the world, yet they fail miserably in international competitions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, MigL said: The Toronto Maple Leafs last won the Stanley Cup in 1967, but everyย year their many fans say "this is the year". England last won their only major international competition, the World Cup, in 1966, yet every 2-4 years fans say "it's coming home". ย I think youโll find this attitude is widespread in sportsball fandom. (There are also the pessimistic masochistic fans, who think the teamโs star is horrible, and their devotion to the team compels them to point this out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) 45 minutes ago, swansont said: I think youโll find this attitude is widespread in sportsball fandom. (There are also the pessimistic masochistic fans, who think the teamโs star is horrible, and their devotion to the team compels them to point this out) Yep, my friend, an avid football fan, said striker Harry Kane was 'garbage' in the Euros. The thing is, national teams aren't playing together week in week out, so don't really gel most times. Edited July 17 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 20 hours ago, StringJunky said: The thing is, national teams aren't playing together week in week out, so don't really gel most times. Some manager's manage it; it's better to be lucky than right, although that would sail over a bank manager's head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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