Dim needs to cut the trolling shit now.

[MSC]

We need to talk about Dim. Who tf does he think he is? Coming onto threads, openly admitting he isn't reading anything longer than a few lines of text and shitting over everything anyone has to say half the time. It's trolling plain and simple. 

If I openly claimed I wasn't reading half of what any of you were saying and was just being purely reactionary to whatever words I happen to understand and just delivering thinly veiled insult all the time I'd have been banned. Is anyone else picking up on this behaviour or is it just to covert for anyone but the people who have had to live with people like Dim their whole lives? Honestly every time he comments I just want to stop engaging and I feel like he just ruins so many good conversations and riles people up and for what? When does he ever say anything particularly useful or insightful? Once in a blue moon? 

Honestly I really enjoy coming here and talking to the majority of you but he makes this place miserable.

[MigL]

He's been here a while, and we've gotten used to him.
Are you recommending an intervention ?

[MSC]

18 minutes ago, MigL said:

He's been here a while, and we've gotten used to him.
Are you recommending an intervention ?

Yes. This isn't a "it's a me or him" situation, that would be stupid but this; 

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But you've put a lot words into your effort and I've got a short attention span; so if you want an answer, would you be so kind as to summarise your main point, and we'll go from there

Can we all agree that the bare minimum for a good faith discussion is that we actually read what each other has to say. I've read through a mix of really long comments made by others, some insightful, some brilliant, some I whole heartedly take issue with, but I read it. 

When someone says to me that they didn't read what I had to say but they still think what I said was stupid or wront, its maddening. Not because it actually makes me think what I said was stupid, but for how insulting it is for someone like Dim who has shown they are more than capable of holding conversations and contributing toward discussions to flipflop between that and this troll like behaviour that seems to be intended to do nothing more than to get a rise out of people. I never know what to expect from Dim, I just don't, I never really know where he stands on an issue, I never know if he's understood what is being said to him and I never know if he's being serious or being deliberately provocative and for my autistic brain none of it computes and it makes talking with him and trying to include him really stressful. I had him on my ignore list but it still indirectly tells you when someone you're ignoring comments and again, sometimes Dim has insights so I don't want to ignore him all the time and he seemed to back off me for a bit so I took him off and then it started back up again but I also see him doing it to others. I got year long time outs from this forum, for very rare meltdowns during very stressful periods of my life, not consistent nearly every day trolling of most members. 

[zapatos]

53 minutes ago, MSC said:

Honestly every time he comments I just want to stop engaging...

I think you've found the answer. Don't interact with him and you won't get so frustrated.

[TheVat]

Holding Dim a little more accountable for some of his cryptic one-liners - would be good, if achievable.  And he does seem to set off newbies with some passive-aggressive stuff now and then. I'd go with Do Not Engage, as well.  

[MSC]

9 minutes ago, TheVat said:

And he does seem to set off newbies with some passive-aggressive stuff now and then

This bothers me. Being new here sucked, a lot. But more engagement is good for the site really and newbies being discouraged or driven away isn't good for the forum or for science. 

Maybe if Dim sees this he can find the time to read and realise that we don't want him to stop interacting with us or the forum, just that he enjoys the time he likes to spend here not at the expense of others. This isn't a safe space but respecting each other and trying to keep it friendlier here than other forms of social media would go far and remembering that it is a science forum so reading is kind of important. Disagree with me and critique me and everyone else, but do so sincerely, in good faith and from a place of being informed. If there is an attention span issue, legitimately what can be done to help with that? Would putting some of the longer comments through a text to voice software help? There are ways. Or maybe limiting yourself to less engagement but better quality? I don't know. I'm spitballing solutions. When my frustration subsides I just feel bad for Dim a bit. I'm not a fucking saint either. 

23 minutes ago, zapatos said:

I think you've found the answer. Don't interact with him and you won't get so frustrated.

Is it naive of me to try to hold myself to a high standard of inclusivity and to try to diplomatically reason with people? Even if they are (by their own admission in Username) a little dim? Am I really just angry at myself for not knowing how to communicate with Dim?

[zapatos]

23 minutes ago, MSC said:

This bothers me. Being new here sucked, a lot. But more engagement is good for the site really and newbies being discouraged or driven away isn't good for the forum or for science. 

Maybe if Dim sees this he can find the time to read and realise that we don't want him to stop interacting with us or the forum, just that he enjoys the time he likes to spend here not at the expense of others. This isn't a safe space but respecting each other and trying to keep it friendlier here than other forms of social media would go far and remembering that it is a science forum so reading is kind of important. Disagree with me and critique me and everyone else, but do so sincerely, in good faith and from a place of being informed. If there is an attention span issue, legitimately what can be done to help with that? Would putting some of the longer comments through a text to voice software help? There are ways. Or maybe limiting yourself to less engagement but better quality? I don't know. I'm spitballing solutions. When my frustration subsides I just feel bad for Dim a bit. I'm not a fucking saint either. 

Is it naive of me to try to hold myself to a high standard of inclusivity and to try to diplomatically reason with people? Even if they are (by their own admission in Username) a little dim? Am I really just angry at myself for not knowing how to communicate with Dim?

He may not be participating in this thread but you are still engaging with him nonetheless. And you are still getting frustrated. The mods decide what behavior is acceptable here, not us. Dim has been doing things his way as long as I remember. I don't think this thread will change that. You can only control what you do, and the way to end the frustration is to stop engaging.

[exchemist]

4 hours ago, MSC said:

We need to talk about Dim. Who tf does he think he is? Coming onto threads, openly admitting he isn't reading anything longer than a few lines of text and shitting over everything anyone has to say half the time. It's trolling plain and simple. 

If I openly claimed I wasn't reading half of what any of you were saying and was just being purely reactionary to whatever words I happen to understand and just delivering thinly veiled insult all the time I'd have been banned. Is anyone else picking up on this behaviour or is it just to covert for anyone but the people who have had to live with people like Dim their whole lives? Honestly every time he comments I just want to stop engaging and I feel like he just ruins so many good conversations and riles people up and for what? When does he ever say anything particularly useful or insightful? Once in a blue moon? 

Honestly I really enjoy coming here and talking to the majority of you but he makes this place miserable.

I came to the conclusion this person was a waste of space a long while ago and put him on Ignore to save annoyance. I recommend it.

[StringJunky]

To dim this is a parlour game, not to be taken seriously. I actively engage with Zionist-type morons elsewhere everyday, who come  out with the most ridiculous rubbish and gutter-level insults, so I have developed somewhat of a thick skin, but, yeah, finding a reply from him is like finding dogshit on your shoe most of the time. If he can brazenly come out with the stuff he does, I can respond in kind, like now. I've done my bit reporting, but it's up to the mods.

[HawkII]

Never heard of them.

[Phi for All]

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