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I'm seeing more and more posts online now of people who have clinically died and claim to have not seen anything. Some have said it was like going into a deep sleep and remember nothing else. 


One guy even said he became atheist because he saw no white light,tunnel, guides...nothing. Just a sensation of "deep sleep".


So what's up with that? 

Stories like this makes me wonder sometimes at the validity of most NDES and makes me wonder if they truly are real or just coming from a dying brain.


When I read posts like this doubt creeps in and makes me question if NDEs,OBES etc are even real?

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24 minutes ago, nec209 said:

I'm seeing more and more posts online now of people who have clinically died and claim to have not seen anything. Some have said it was like going into a deep sleep and remember nothing else. 


One guy even said he became atheist because he saw no white light,tunnel, guides...nothing. Just a sensation of "deep sleep".


So what's up with that? 

Stories like this makes me wonder sometimes at the validity of most NDES and makes me wonder if they truly are real or just coming from a dying brain.


When I read posts like this doubt creeps in and makes me question if NDEs,OBES etc are even real?

What's an OBE? To me it means the Order of the British Empire, which is something awarded by the King to suitably deserving people.   

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55 minutes ago, nec209 said:

Stories like this makes me wonder sometimes at the validity of most NDES and makes me wonder if they truly are real or just coming from a dying brain.

 

Yes, NDEs are most definitely real. They have been extensively documented. They also likely come from a dying brain.

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56 minutes ago, exchemist said:

What's an OBE? To me it means the Order of the British Empire, which is something awarded by the King to suitably deserving people.   

Out of body experience.

😀

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59 minutes ago, exchemist said:

What's an OBE? To me it means the Order of the British Empire, which is something awarded by the King to suitably deserving people.   

For me it’s Overcome By Events

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Why should dying be an identical (or nearly so) event for everyone?

26 minutes ago, studiot said:

Out of body experience.

😀

Strange for British English to drop a vowel like that. One expects extra ones.

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38 minutes ago, zapatos said:

Yes, NDEs are most definitely real. They have been extensively documented. They also likely come from a dying brain.

Well unfortunately some of the near death experience groups is rooted with christians bubble crowed so I wonder how much some one’s culture or religion shapes on what their near death experience is like.

Like for example do Muslim’s have different near death experience than christians and Hindu people have different near death experience than christians and alien researchers crowd people have different near death experience than christians.  Well because if that case than the brain is just hallucinating. 

Because if there was some thing really religious going on than the story would be the same across many cultures and religions across the world.

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4 minutes ago, nec209 said:

Because if there was some thing really religious going on than the story would be the same across many cultures and religions across the world.

And across the universe!

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All are figments of the brain, under stress by the circumstances.
The brain often 'fills in' missing information with what is stored in familiar neural pathways.
Nobody sees the blind spot each eyeball has ( where optic nerve connects to retina ), even though every eyeball has one, because the brain makes stuff up for you to see ( and does so pretty accurately ).

It is people who place significance and importance on these NDEs and OBEs that are deluded.

Posted
1 hour ago, studiot said:

Out of body experience.

😀

Ah, yes. Of course.

As in H G Wells's short story, "Under the Knife". Perhaps you know it. 

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1 hour ago, swansont said:

Strange for British English to drop a vowel like that. One expects extra ones.

I have it on good authority that a BOOBE is a British out of body experience.   It's like an OOBE except that the sense of relief is greater.

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