Double Slit Experiment Rethought

[swansont]

9 hours ago, Michael McMahon said:

A counterargument against materialism might be how the photon seems to require a second photon to be a wave in the double slit experiment rather than just one photon being a wave in itself.

No, since single-photon (or electron) experiments have shown interference.

9 hours ago, Michael McMahon said:

So in the double slit experiment not only could you fire electrons individually but for emphasis you could delay each electron for 5 minutes. Then how would an electron be connected temporally to an electron fired 5 minutes prior to be diffracted with where they ought to have been two separate waves. 

Indeed. The conclusion is that the particle interferes with itself

[Michael McMahon]

6 hours ago, swansont said:

No, since single-photon (or electron) experiments have shown interference.

Indeed. The conclusion is that the particle interferes with itself

A limitation of the uncertainty principle is not only does knowing one variable like location make another variable like speed more uncertain but there’s also a problem of deflection. So if you roll a ping pong towards a bowling ball you can infer the original speed of the bowling ball by the new speed of the ping pong. Yet there’s still a small bit of deflection on the bowling ball due to a conservation of energy and Newton’s law of for every action there’s an equal and opposite reaction. I don’t exactly know what the detector is in the double slit experiment but how do you know that if a detector emits particles to observe the original electrons that those electrons aren’t confined like a tunnel barrier?

[swansont]

2 hours ago, Michael McMahon said:

A limitation of the uncertainty principle is not only does knowing one variable like location make another variable like speed more uncertain but there’s also a problem of deflection. So if you roll a ping pong towards a bowling ball you can infer the original speed of the bowling ball by the new speed of the ping pong. Yet there’s still a small bit of deflection on the bowling ball due to a conservation of energy and Newton’s law of for every action there’s an equal and opposite reaction. I don’t exactly know what the detector is in the double slit experiment but how do you know that if a detector emits particles to observe the original electrons that those electrons aren’t confined like a tunnel barrier?

This deflection is not from the uncertainty principle, and isn’t the reason for interference.

Just a big non-sequitur

[Michael McMahon]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:42 PM, swansont said:

This deflection is not from the uncertainty principle, and isn’t the reason for interference.

Just a big non-sequitur

Lets get back to basics where the Ancient Greeks mused that the world is made of earth, air, water and fire. So the simplest way to resolve quantum mechanics is to inquire whether fire is a particle or a wave. If fire was torched through an iron double slit then what would such an interference pattern resemble? Unlike a water wave a fire wave would not only diverge but also converge back into one flame after a double slit due to chaotic meandering. 

Rodded road drain on fire

So is it possible that a two-prong interference pattern could still be a wave as if the vertical landing of an electron on either prong is still random top-to-bottom even if the horizontal landing isn’t so random? A radar gun doesn’t measure speed differences in light as such because as we know from Einstein the outgoing wave immediately travels at light speed irrespective of any relative velocity from the observers car or walking speed without there being a gradual acceleration to light speed. Moreover the reflected light speed from the perpetrator’s car is ironically the same speed where only the frequency has changed owing to the Doppler effect. So could the observer effect in the double slit experiment be a frequency change in electrons from a double prong to a multi-prong as if the observer was merely a polaroid of sorts? If fire is a destructive process then was matter made of photons all along? 
https://www.clearvibrations.net/how-does-a-police-radar-gun-work/#:~:text=In simple terms%2C a radar,after bouncing off an object.

 

A simplistic solution to quantum gravity might be that if outer space is freezing cold and the Earth’s mantle is molten hot then the latent heat of fusion between keeping you a solid or sublimating you straight into a gas would alter your density due to diffusion. This means that Earth’s heat could sink you into remaining at ground level. Gravity would then act like a Cold War nuclear stalemate between the planets to preserve thermal equilibrium! 

Edited August 26 by Michael McMahon

[swansont]

Just now, Michael McMahon said:

Lets get back to basics where the Ancient Greeks mused that the world is made of earth, air, water and fire

Of what use is analyzing an incorrect model?

[Mordred]

4 minutes ago, Michael McMahon said:

Lets get back to basics where the Ancient Greeks mused that the world is made of earth, air, water and fire. So the simplest way to resolve quantum mechanics is to inquire whether fire is a particle or a wave. If fire was torched through an iron double slit then what would such an interference pattern resemble? Unlike a water wave a fire wave would not only diverge but also converge back into one flame after a double slit due to chaotic meandering. 

Rodded road drain on fire

So is it possible that a two-prong interference pattern could still be a wave as if the vertical landing of an electron on either prong is still random top-to-bottom even if the horizontal landing isn’t so random? A radar gun doesn’t measure speed differences in light as such because as we know from Einstein the outgoing wave immediately travels at light speed irrespective of any relative velocity from the observers car or walking speed without there being a gradual acceleration to light speed. Moreover the reflected light speed from the perpetrator’s car is ironically the same speed where only the frequency has changed owing to the Doppler effect. So could the observer effect in the double slit experiment be a frequency change in electrons from a double prong to a multi-prong as if the observer was merely a polaroid of sorts? If fire is a destructive process then was matter made of photons all along? 
https://www.clearvibrations.net/how-does-a-police-radar-gun-work/#:~:text=In simple terms%2C a radar,after bouncing off an object.

 

A simplistic solution to quantum gravity might be that if outer space is freezing cold and the Earth’s mantle is molten hot then the latent heat of fusion between keeping you a solid or  sublimating you straight into a gas would alter your density due to diffusion. This means that Earth’s heat could sink you into remaining at ground level. Gravity would then act like a Cold War nuclear stalemate between the planets! 

Nothing here is applying physics for starters alchemy Earth, air fire and water has nothing to do with modern physics and nothing to do with quantum gravity or the two slit experiment.

Cross posted with Swansont

 

Edited August 26 by Mordred

[Michael McMahon]

35 minutes ago, swansont said:

Of what use is analyzing an incorrect model?

Sublimation: to pass or cause to pass directly from the solid to the vapor state.

Something sublime is wonderful so who knows whether’s there’s a pun here where the ghost in the machine is like the sublimation of our solid neurons into gaseous audial thoughts without subvocalisation. It’s in our inner mind or inner ear so to speak more so than our inner eye!  

frozen carbon dioxide (dry ice) 

The CO2 we breathe out might be a metaphor for dry ice as we hear our breathing and morph the sounds of our inhalation and exhalation or our lub-dub of our heartbeat into our acoustic thoughts. 

[swansont]

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Moderator Note

There’s nothing here that comes remotely close to what we expect in speculations