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[Gian]

Am I right that one of the symptoms of psychosis is coming to believe stuff that isn't true?

If so, can this extend to the moral sense? Eg suppose someone was really stressed and woke up one day believing it was OK to steal a car, when previously they'd never have dreamt of thinking that. Would that be psychosis?

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GIAN 

[TheVat]

1 hour ago, Gian said:

Am I right that one of the symptoms of psychosis is coming to believe stuff that isn't true?

If so, can this extend to the moral sense? Eg suppose someone was really stressed and woke up one day believing it was OK to steal a car, when previously they'd never have dreamt of thinking that. Would that be psychosis?

Cheerz

GIAN 

Doubtful.  A psychotic break changes one's orientation with respect to the world and the input coming from the world.  It is about distortions of perception and delusions.  One might come to believe, say, that it was okay to steal a car because it belonged to a demon who was riding about distributing brain worms into innocent people.  Or steal because a dark force was coercing one to do bad things.  But the underlying moral sense would be less likely to change.  That kind of change would more likely be due to a stroke or head trauma (Google Phineas Gage case) especially affecting the frontal lobes.

[Gian]

On 9/2/2024 at 3:00 PM, TheVat said:

Doubtful.  A psychotic break changes one's orientation with respect to the world and the input coming from the world.  It is about distortions of perception and delusions.  One might come to believe, say, that it was okay to steal a car because it belonged to a demon who was riding about distributing brain worms into innocent people.  Or steal because a dark force was coercing one to do bad things.  But the underlying moral sense would be less likely to change.  That kind of change would more likely be due to a stroke or head trauma (Google Phineas Gage case) especially affecting the frontal lobes.

Could a severe depressive episode cause such a change?

[iNow]

No. They’d still know it was wrong, but simply wouldn’t care about the self destructive consequences such actions would bring 

Edited September 4 by iNow
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[Gian]

12 hours ago, iNow said:

No. They’d still know it was wrong, but simply wouldn’t care about the self destructive consequences such actions would bring 

As no one chooses to be depressed, could this be grounds for a plea of diminished responsibility?

[iNow]

Depends on how good the lawyer is

And how sympathetic the judge / jury