What are resources to prevent school shootings and mass shootings?

[zapatos]

2 minutes ago, Night FM said:

Right. If a person's home constantly gets broken into, it's their responsibility to take action such as installing a security system. Obviously, this doesn't mean it's "right" for a burglar to break into a person's home just because they didn't install a security system (and the law obviously wouldn't agree with that either). But it's more likely to happen to people who don't have one.

You're being obstinate and misusing the term "victim blaming" to avoid acknowledging simple realities.

The simple reality is that teens and pre-teens rarely have the ability to cope with relentless physical and/or emotional bullying. In addition, many of the people most in need of security systems for their homes are lucky if they can afford to eat every day, much less shell out money for a security system. Again, you seem either clueless about life on earth or are willfully ignorant.

[Night FM]

5 minutes ago, zapatos said:

The simple reality is that teens and pre-teens rarely have the ability to cope with relentless physical and/or emotional bullying. In addition, many of the people most in need of security systems for their homes are lucky if they can afford to eat every day, much less shell out money for a security system. Again, you seem either clueless about life on earth or are willfully ignorant.

Right, the security system analogy is only one possible solution. People would need solutions tailored to their individual circumstances. This discussion is about finding ways to help teens cope with bullying who aren't currently able to do so. (And cope doesn't simply mean "get over it", it means being able to take action to prevent it and not use it as an excuse to act out in antisocial ways, such as in the case of school shooters).

Edited Tuesday at 12:05 AM by Night FM

[iNow]

Unless you believe students in other countries around the planet are magically better at coping with social difficulties than students in the US, then you’re doing nothing but trying to displace the conversation and distract from the actual root cause. 

It’s easier for frustrated white boys in America to get a gun than to get laid, and the consequences of this simple fact are obvious to us all… especially the tens of thousands of students being put into lockdown in schools every year and being forced to do active shooter drills every few weeks starting in kindergarten. 

Edited Tuesday at 12:35 AM by iNow

[zapatos]

34 minutes ago, Night FM said:

And cope doesn't simply mean "get over it", it means being able to take action to prevent it and not use it as an excuse to act out in antisocial ways, such as in the case of school shooters).

Have you read one single thing I've said? How does an 11 year old girl with a poor home life 'take action' to prevent physical and emotional abuse in some school that cannot even afford text books for all students? NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE YOU. 

And now you continue to blame the victim for 'acting out' and using the abuse as an "excuse"?!?! People like you make me want to vomit. Please stay out of the way while the rest of us try to address real world problems.

[Night FM]

29 minutes ago, zapatos said:

Have you read one single thing I've said? How does an 11 year old girl with a poor home life 'take action' to prevent physical and emotional abuse in some school that cannot even afford text books for all students? NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE YOU. 

If we're talking about someone as young as 11, they would need to at least communicate the abuse with people who can address it (e.x. parents or authority figures), and most of the resources would be dedicated to the parents and authority figures who are better able to address the situation than the 11 year old girl herself. You're not thinking this through very well.

29 minutes ago, zapatos said:

And now you continue to blame the victim for 'acting out' and using the abuse as an "excuse"?!?! People like you make me want to vomit. Please stay out of the way while the rest of us try to address real world problems.

That's what the law does. A school shooter can't say "I was bullied" as a cop out to being sent to prison. You seem to have contempt for the notion of personal responsibility, and enjoy misusing the term "victim blame". No one is saying that what a bully does is "right" simply because the person doesn't handle it properly.

Edited Tuesday at 01:14 AM by Night FM

[swansont]

19 hours ago, Night FM said:

e.x.

e.x.? What doe the e and x stand for?

Did you mean e.g. (exempli gratia)?

[LuckyR]

On 9/16/2024 at 5:34 PM, iNow said:

Unless you believe students in other countries around the planet are magically better at coping with social difficulties than students in the US, then you’re doing nothing but trying to displace the conversation and distract from the actual root cause. 

It’s easier for frustrated white boys in America to get a gun than to get laid, and the consequences of this simple fact are obvious to us all… especially the tens of thousands of students being put into lockdown in schools every year and being forced to do active shooter drills every few weeks starting in kindergarten. 

Best post in the thread. While there are many factors in why school shootings occur, none of them (except getting rid of all guns) will make much of a difference if implemented and a "gun ban" will never occur in the US. So you have the status quo. 

 

Holding parents responsible will reduce a minority of the events and has broad support. That's the only positive I can detect.