NobelPrizeLaureate Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Don't you reckon it's a great idea to train people to vaccinate each other in public? Like, the process of administering an injection is very simple, I've seen tutorials on youtube, like a 4 step process. If everybody in the world were trained to administer flu shots, or tetanus shots, for instance There could be random booths put up all over the place, one could just walk upto a person on the street and be like "Wanna give me my flu injection" Just an idea I had wanted to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, NobelPrizeLaureate said: Don't you reckon it's a great idea to train people to vaccinate each other in public? Like, the process of administering an injection is very simple, I've seen tutorials on youtube, like a 4 step process. If everybody in the world were trained to administer flu shots, or tetanus shots, for instance There could be random booths put up all over the place, one could just walk upto a person on the street and be like "Wanna give me my flu injection" Just an idea I had wanted to share. Horrible idea. Think about the risks associated with getting injected with stuff from random people. Moreover, where is the need? Availability of vaccines is not an issue in developed countries, just walk into any pharmacy. Again, think about the issue surrounding administering drugs for a few more seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exchemist Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, NobelPrizeLaureate said: Don't you reckon it's a great idea to train people to vaccinate each other in public? Like, the process of administering an injection is very simple, I've seen tutorials on youtube, like a 4 step process. If everybody in the world were trained to administer flu shots, or tetanus shots, for instance There could be random booths put up all over the place, one could just walk upto a person on the street and be like "Wanna give me my flu injection" Just an idea I had wanted to share. I'm not sure the number of people available to give the injections is normally the limiting factor in the take-up of vaccinations. I think it's more a question of getting enough doses sent to the right place and getting people to come forward to be vaccinated. Nurses and even nowadays pharmacists can administer injections. The local clinic I attended last Saturday for my 'flu' and covid jabs (which I am automatically offered now that I am over 65 years old) did 400 people in a single morning. But regarding members of the public doing it, I do not think that is a good idea. People need to trust the process if they are gong to come forward to be vaccinated, and there are plenty of ways it can be messed up in unqualified hands, ranging from unnecessary pain during the process to bruising, or even introduction of infections if proper sterility is not maintained. I certainly would not be willing to risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 No, I want someone with training. When I was in the navy, I had a couple of occasions where I was a victim of a corpsman-in-training getting some practice, and not performing very well. Injections may look easy, but that doesn’t mean any schmo can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 33 minutes ago, NobelPrizeLaureate said: Like, the process of administering an injection is very simple, I've seen tutorials on youtube, like a 4 step process. Like by the same person who offers to make you a millionaire in 4 minutes ? Let's be very clear. There are many sorts of 'injections' :- intra venus and intra muscular, intra dermal, intra occular to name but a few. Each one carries its own risks and special techniques, some are easier than others. Does your 4 step procedure cope with this. For instance what if the patient is on Clopidogrel ? On a lighter note, my wife used to teach injections. They used to practise on an orange for the manual ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilGeis Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 youtube? I'll add that vaccines have storage and handling requirements that certainly wont served well by the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 39 minutes ago, PhilGeis said: youtube? I'll add that vaccines have storage and handling requirements that certainly wont served well by the general public. Exactly. Also, how would you ensure that the random person is in fact providing vaccines and not something else entirely? The process of injecting is not even the biggest issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Why "to each other" and not to themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapatos Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 I got a flu shot from a trained professional a few years back and developed SIRVA. Given that it can happen when shots are administered by professionals, I think I'll pass on having some dude in the neighborhood stick a needle in my arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyR Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 On 10/19/2024 at 10:39 AM, PhilGeis said: youtube? I'll add that vaccines have storage and handling requirements that certainly wont served well by the general public. Hey don't dis YouTube, I "learned" how to replce a dislocated shoulder from YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Did it involve essential oils and investments in crypto currencies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyR Posted Saturday at 06:18 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:18 PM (edited) On 10/27/2024 at 7:43 AM, iNow said: Did it involve essential oils and investments in crypto currencies? Nope, it was produced by an ER doc for use by other ER docs. Edited Saturday at 06:18 PM by LuckyR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted Saturday at 06:30 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:30 PM I see. So NOT the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyR Posted Monday at 10:11 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:11 PM On 11/9/2024 at 10:30 AM, iNow said: I see. So NOT the general public. That was the intent of the producer, but anyone can watch and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted Monday at 10:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:20 PM 8 minutes ago, LuckyR said: anyone can watch and learn. That’s optimistic. I’ve seen too much evidence to the contrary to readily agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyR Posted Monday at 10:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:25 PM 3 minutes ago, iNow said: That’s optimistic. I’ve seen too much evidence to the contrary to readily agree. The cohort seeking out such a video will not be a cross section of the General Public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted Monday at 10:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:26 PM 12 minutes ago, LuckyR said: That was the intent of the producer, but anyone can watch and learn. ER docs have a certain background and experience that the general public does not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted Monday at 11:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:20 PM 54 minutes ago, LuckyR said: The cohort seeking out such a video will not be a cross section of the General Public. Interesting claim you’ve got there. Would be a shame if someone asked you to back it up with evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyR Posted Wednesday at 08:50 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:50 AM (edited) On 11/11/2024 at 2:26 PM, swansont said: ER docs have a certain background and experience that the general public does not Thanks for that, Captain Obvious. On 11/11/2024 at 3:20 PM, iNow said: Interesting claim you’ve got there. Would be a shame if someone asked you to back it up with evidence. If it isn't inherently obvious that individuals who do a search for "how to replace a dislocated shoulder" are not a random distribution of folks on YouTube, I can't help you. Edited Wednesday at 08:54 AM by LuckyR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted Wednesday at 08:56 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:56 AM 5 minutes ago, LuckyR said: I can't help you. Glad we agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilGeis Posted Wednesday at 03:16 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:16 PM Please note temperature control important to flu vaccine stability. https://www.naccho.org/uploads/downloadable-resources/storage-of-influenza-vaccine-MDH-3.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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