Atheism and suicide

[swansont]

2 hours ago, gawdzillasama said:

You said "that implies...". Don't rework my words, use your own.

I didn’t rework your words; I quoted them without change. I did use my own in reply.

 

2 hours ago, gawdzillasama said:

This might help  you.

 

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Not really. An infographic with 24 fallacies listed - am I supposed to have used all of them? Do I pick one? Do you not know which one I allegedly used? Is this just distraction so you don’t have to address the issue (i.e. a red herring, not listed in that link)? Do you not understand how discussions work? Something else?

31 minutes ago, gawdzillasama said:

Nothing confusing about it. 

Whether someone else is confused isn’t your call to make.

[TheVat]

One value I find in both philosophy and religion forums is that you can find hidden assumptions in a statement which you didn't even know were there.  This can happen to anyone.  I don't think Swanson is making a logical fallacy there at all.  When you assert

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Atheists believe this is all we get. It's possible that one's life is so shit that non-existence is favorable, but rationally that removes any chance of things changing. 

you are referring to non-existence as what follows biological life.  You make this clear by saying this is all we get. While this is likely to be true, it doesn't have to be held true by an atheist.  It is not a necessary belief for being atheist.  That is Swanson's point.   And the point of my example.  Atheism asserts only that a personal God isn't in the picture.  Were you to amend your initial sentence subject to "all scientific materialists and some atheists," then that incorrect hidden assumption would be remedied.

13 hours ago, gawdzillasama said:

That will be the end of that diversion. 

Haha.  Good one.  But you've logged enough time at science forums to know how unlikely that is.  To paraphrase Twain, whisky is for drinking, definitions are for fighting over.

[gawdzillasama]

LOL to the wall. Via con diablos.