MJ kihara Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago How many different ways can someone illustrate geodesics. Can a wavy line be used to illustrate a geodesic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigL Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 59 minutes ago, MJ kihara said: Can a wavy line be used to illustrate a geodesic? You can use dashed, or dotted, lines also ... There are many ways to illustrate the path taken by test particles in free-fall, through space-time, such that the path length is minimized. ( in the context of GR ) Edited 20 hours ago by MigL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ kihara Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago 10 hours ago, MigL said: to illustrate the path taken by test particles in free-fall, through space-time, such that the path length is minimized. Assuming we have an asteroid having an elliptical orbit around the sun..can this orbit/ geodesic be illustrated as a wavy line extending from the larger mass(sun)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 26 minutes ago, MJ kihara said: Assuming we have an asteroid having an elliptical orbit around the sun..can this orbit/ geodesic be illustrated as a wavy line extending from the larger mass(sun)? A wavy line extending from the mass would not illustrate the path of the orbit. It might illustrate something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago The horizontal axis here is some x, e.g., ellipse's major axis. The vertical axis is time. The wavy line is the orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ kihara Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Genady said: The horizontal axis here is some x, e.g., ellipse's major axis. The vertical axis is time. The wavy line is the orbit. ...and since the wavy line is the orbit and the orbit is the path tracing the asteroid as it free fall,then wavy line is the geodesic... You wavy line is not for an elliptical orbit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 15 minutes ago, MJ kihara said: ...and since the wavy line is the orbit and the orbit is the path tracing the asteroid as it free fall,then wavy line is the geodesic... You wavy line is not for an elliptical orbit? I think it is for an elliptical orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) One other possibility as a reference for the image isnt provided it could also indicate the action due to path of least resistance via Euler-Langrangian with the straightline arrow indicating the mean average. I sometimes encounter similar diagrams in least action articles involving gravity. Typically used when describing infinitisimal variations as opposed to more classical treatments. However that's just a possibility without a reference to go by. Edited 6 hours ago by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ kihara Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Genady said: I think it is for an elliptical orbit. I don't think so...the asteroid is orbiting sun elliptically...that's for a circular orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, MJ kihara said: I don't think so...the asteroid is orbiting sun elliptically...that's for a circular orbit. I think it is for a general ellipse, including circle. I don't see what makes it limited to circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ kihara Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Genady said: I think it is for a general ellipse, including circle. I don't see what makes it limited to circle. I think specifically it for a circle... avoiding definition complications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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