Choosing how you will die

[raphaelh42]

Hi

First i'm not sure to understand if here we are allowed to share what we feel, what we think/believe, to discuss and discover established concepts, to go deeper and learn

If not then sorry i will find some other forum, and will come here only to ask what was this and what was that, to obtain some Wikipedia links, and will keep the thinking part for somewhere else

So, we are in the Philosophy category, seems to me it's related to thinking, sorry again if i didn't read the definition of philosophy before opening this thread

 

I wanted to share this idea, which seems to me to be philosophical, and maybe adapted to discussion

 

To decide the way you will die

 

Instead of trying not to think about how you might die, being afraid of it, what about choosing how you will die

What could be the positive effects of this in your opinion ?

 

In my case, i don't want to die old from a disease, with strangers washing me everyday

 

I would prefer to shut down myself before that, that makes me feel a positive effect but i struggle to explain right now

 

i feel like choosing how you will die, can help to chose how you will live...

like if having control on your death, can help to have control on your life...

 

Some people say, you don't know what will be tomorrow, so enjoy the day

But if you know in advance it's the last one, seems to me you will take more of it, than a regular day

If you know you will cause your own death, and when, could that help to enjoy the life more...

Edited November 18 by raphaelh42

[LaurieAG]

Raphaelh42, some Australian states like Queensland have voluntary assisted dying (euthanasia) legislation for people who meet the eligibility criteria. You may find some answers to your philosophical questions in the structure of the following link.

Eligibility criteria for voluntary assisted dying

[dimreepr]

9 hours ago, raphaelh42 said:

To decide the way you will die

 

Instead of trying not to think about how you might die, being afraid of it, what about choosing how you will die

What could be the positive effects of this in your opinion ?

 

In my case, i don't want to die old from a disease, with strangers washing me everyday

You can't protect yourself from tomorrow by deciding to die today.

9 hours ago, raphaelh42 said:

 

i feel like choosing how you will die, can help to chose how you will live...

like if having control on your death, can help to have control on your life...

 

Some people say, you don't know what will be tomorrow, so enjoy the day

But if you know in advance it's the last one, seems to me you will take more of it, than a regular day

If you know you will cause your own death, and when, could that help to enjoy the life more...

For those that know they're going to die painfully bc of the diagnosis, would probably choose to die when the pain gets to much to bare, which is, usually, tomorrow.

Choosing an arbitrary day to die, when you don't have a diagnosis of impending death is just giving up on life, I can't see how anyone can spin that to be a positive.

[Peterkin]

11 hours ago, raphaelh42 said:

If you know you will cause your own death, and when, could that help to enjoy the life more...

I doubt it. While I absolutely believe that neither church nor state should have the power to take away people's control of their on bodies, their own lives, there is only so much we can control. 

Our circumstances are affected by so many external factors, we have only a limited range of choices. We don't decide whether we're born healthy or compromised, talented or dull, rich or poor, into the dominant or a minority ethnic/religious group. We don't decide our formative environment or early education. Even in the most fortunate circumstances, external conditions may change from one day to the next: a political coup, a tornado, an inflamed appendix, a traffic accident, a wrongful conviction or frustrated mugger can take the power of decision out of our hands.

Deciding that you will shoot yourself on a certain date in the future may give you an illusion of control. If that makes you happy, sure, make the decision - you or your neighbour or your government or a random tile falling off a roof can always change your mind.     

[Genady]

11 hours ago, raphaelh42 said:

i don't want to die old from a disease, with strangers washing me everyday

That will be good. I don't want to die young, healthy, and/or dirty.

[TheVat]

The Japanese say you cannot know life if you don't know death.

 

[raphaelh42]

Thanks for the link LaurieAG, it seems maybe more accessible there than in some others places

In my case i wouldn't want to be assisted for this, i would prefer to do it alone, and my body never being found

 

6 hours ago, TheVat said:

The Japanese say you cannot know life if you don't know death.

That sounds interesting, i use to think maybe when you die, you have as reward to finally understand what was life

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i think setting up a date, a method, can help to live fully, help to do things while you still can, instead of thinking i could do it later

when taking this choice, you could still do it later, but you know when you couldn't do anymore, and it seems to me it can have as positive effect to motivate you to do these stuff instead of always keep for later, and probably never do, i hope someone see what i mean

 

 

another positive effect can be that you know you will not be a burden

i think it can help to make peace to decide your exit

Edited November 18 by raphaelh42

[Peterkin]

40 minutes ago, raphaelh42 said:

when taking this choice, you could still do it later, but you know when you couldn't do anymore,

A stroke or fall downstairs can render you helpless in a second, at any age. In that case, if you don't want to live in that condition, you'd need assistance. Governments Countries that allow medical assistance generally set conditions and limits.