On the world-wide trend of anti-establishment voting.

[dimreepr]

On 12/17/2024 at 5:17 PM, DeepBlueSouth said:

okay then, what's your point...? [if your inference is that I am a close minded nationalist, I am unsure you read most of what I wrote]

P.S. sorry to interrupt your literary discussion, it was going so well.

My point...? Hmm, isn't it strange that we're so willing/determined to accept that 'utopia' is, no place and impossible, yet we seem so eager to accept that 'dystopia' is everywhere and imminent. 

[DeepBlueSouth]

10 hours ago, dimreepr said:

My point...? Hmm, isn't it strange that we're so willing/determined to accept that 'utopia' is, no place and impossible, yet we seem so eager to accept that 'dystopia' is everywhere and imminent. 

yea. 😕 while I don't disagree with the point, and I appreciate the candor, particularly in light of this particular week of the western calendar; dystopian concepts have become pretty ubiquitous here in late stage capitalism. I used to refer to it as controlled poverty when I was younger. reaganomics by any other name is still worth less than manure itself as a concept.

forty years ago, a person could work as a mop and broom operator, manage a restaurant or store, or sell VCR's and home appliances for a career; not just a salary or "a living", partly supporting a household; but a career. they could have a stay at home partner, send at least one of three kids to college [okay, mostly], and afford two working cars for the home: a brick and mortar house, not a double wide or a condo; something with a mortgage and equity, not a rental agreement and arbitration. if the politicians would agree to let that ever happen again [we work more than we did back then and productivity is also up], I daresay hope wouldn't be in such a short supply amongst ourselves.

as for the anti-establishmentism, ask any of the articles written by people who have the brass not to just blame social media for all of society's ills. most of us are literally giving up on the future because most of us have no viable options beyond what we are railroaded into doing through social and economic determinism. life is just a rigged carnival game, the only option is how often to play along, and when to sit it out.

[dimreepr]

15 hours ago, DeepBlueSouth said:

yea. 😕 while I don't disagree with the point, and I appreciate the candor, particularly in light of this particular week of the western calendar; dystopian concepts have become pretty ubiquitous here in late stage capitalism. I used to refer to it as controlled poverty when I was younger. reaganomics by any other name is still worth less than manure itself as a concept.

forty years ago, a person could work as a mop and broom operator, manage a restaurant or store, or sell VCR's and home appliances for a career; not just a salary or "a living", partly supporting a household; but a career. they could have a stay at home partner, send at least one of three kids to college [okay, mostly], and afford two working cars for the home: a brick and mortar house, not a double wide or a condo; something with a mortgage and equity, not a rental agreement and arbitration. if the politicians would agree to let that ever happen again [we work more than we did back then and productivity is also up], I daresay hope wouldn't be in such a short supply amongst ourselves.

as for the anti-establishmentism, ask any of the articles written by people who have the brass not to just blame social media for all of society's ills. most of us are literally giving up on the future because most of us have no viable options beyond what we are railroaded into doing through social and economic determinism. life is just a rigged carnival game, the only option is how often to play along, and when to sit it out.

It's more nuanced than that, our need's and wants have been conflated and then used as a weapon of mass distraction.

Late stage capitalism... implies a revolution is imminent, I'm content with that and a full belly, for now...

Edited 5 minutes ago by dimreepr