swansont Posted Saturday at 12:38 AM Posted Saturday at 12:38 AM 2 hours ago, CharonY said: Wait, are you suggesting he bought it without being high? Raising that possibility. Optimism. Sort of.
iNow Posted Saturday at 03:10 AM Posted Saturday at 03:10 AM (edited) 6 hours ago, CharonY said: Now it is a deluge of just random claims which makes it very difficult and disheartening to disassemble. The attack is against truth itself. Classic flood the zone with shit propaganda tool. Manufactured realities micro targeted into specific tribes and groups. The premise being pushed is that nothing can be trusted. That sounds reasonable enough, even almostscientific. Verify everything, right? Except, the verification piece is missing. Stephen Colbert years ago called it “truthiness.” Your facts and my alternative facts are equal because I feel mine’s right… so there! That’s what free speech fights are about… my freedom to choose my own facts and my own realities, not the freedom to avoid punishment from government for saying something. Why bother beating your opponent in chess when you can instead dissolve the board itself and let the pieces fall to the floor. The earth is flat. Birds don’t exist. Trump won the 2020 election. Russia is defending Ukrainians from nazis. Hillary Clinton is raping children in the basement of a pizza place. The Jersey drones are nuclear buses and this $15K device for my muscles is surely not just a placebo. Humans have always been influenced by and vulnerable to such things, but lately the tech is making it easier than ever for the crooks and cronies to outpace and put scale cool headed critical thoughts. This is why the TikTok ban is being considered. It’s a brain tuner like a radio antenna for our cortex and we don’t like who’s controlling the knobs and levers and picking the stations. Edited Saturday at 03:14 AM by iNow 1
TheVat Posted Saturday at 03:35 PM Posted Saturday at 03:35 PM 17 hours ago, exchemist said: Christ Almighty! But you do come across such people. I remember a charming, attractive and well-read young woman, Jenny, who was one of my neighbours in the house I had in my rowing days, who I went out with a few times, thinking it might lead somewhere. But I found, on the second date, she had read a book called “The Hot Zone” about an Ebola epidemic in Africa and was convinced it was going to kill us all by melting our internal organs. There were other things too, which led me to the conclusion she was just one of those people - I have encountered others- who “go in for ballocks”. But if this chap has blown $15k on a biocharger, either he is rich enough to have money to waste or he has something missing in his sense of reality. You could buy a car, or have a new kitchen, for that sort of money. I read The Hot Zone, too, but didn't find quite the same message there. (I, too, have had the "pretty, but nuts" experience, and the inner conflicts that can arise. Sometimes one imagines one can talk the fair maiden off the ledge, but chances of that are slim.) This BF in question does seem to have money and come from a wealthy family, which has been a gauntlet of culture shocks for my daughter - sounds like the orgone bioenergy device may be a penultimate straw.
CharonY Posted Sunday at 06:45 PM Posted Sunday at 06:45 PM On 1/3/2025 at 9:10 PM, iNow said: The attack is against truth itself. Classic flood the zone with shit propaganda tool. Manufactured realities micro targeted into specific tribes and groups. A big issue is that the lack of critical thinking creates a positive feedback loop where you do not even need forces with an agenda to create harmful movements. I think in the past it was necessary, as otherwise these trends would fade away, but due to the viral effect of the internet (which is a fitting description in more than one way), it can sustain itself. In some cases I suspect that the propaganda was not actually started by certain players, but that it was harnessed by them. On 1/3/2025 at 9:10 PM, iNow said: The earth is flat. Birds don’t exist. Trump won the 2020 election. Russia is defending Ukrainians from nazis. Hillary Clinton is raping children in the basement of a pizza place. The Jersey drones are nuclear buses and this $15K device for my muscles is surely not just a placebo. Many of these are examples have started as joke and got accelerated themselves to a point where they could be weaponized. I think one has to start thinking of these issues less of a targeted weapon by enemy forces, but rather a self-perpetuating disease where the only defense is inoculation with skills that allow us to critically evaluate and gain knowledge. 1
iNow Posted Sunday at 09:38 PM Posted Sunday at 09:38 PM 2 hours ago, CharonY said: a self-perpetuating disease where the only defense is inoculation with skills that allow us to critically evaluate and gain knowledge. Keep yer woke mind vaccines away from me and muh guns, libtard 1
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