Is it possible to know you existed at all without the ability reminisce/remember or a proper vessel of remembrance ?

[TheVat]

So the thread seems to be asking if there is reincarnation with memory transfer.  The answer might be this is a metaphysical conjecture which has not been empirically determined.  All evidence to date (usually from children claiming past life memories) is tainted by possible coaching from parents, information leakage, leading questions, and memories so vague or generic they could just be fantasy from an imaginative mind.   The prominent investigator in this area, Ian Stevenson, seemed to me to be an earnest and dedicated researcher but gullible.

And related theories like Sheldrake's morphic resonance, which posits a kind of memory inherent in all matter, also lack support.  Though Sheldrake I give credit for at least breaking it down into testable hypotheses.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by TheVat
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[Migveg19]

3 hours ago, m_m said:

I can't answer for Migveg19, but for my understanding, this topic is about memory. I think he says that,  if there is no brain, i.e. body, memory IS there. Memory DOESN'T disappear. I believe he is talking about our soul.

And I think that we have the brightest memories when our memory is mostly connected with our body. When you do something, and you are aware of doing it. Total presence and attention. 

Yes and no. Yes this is about memories. No to everything else. I see you and others, think of this more spiritually and or emotionally. But really this a complete science based idea, ( ik I posted it on philosophy forum) and has to do more with the need for a vessel like a Brain, to hold memories. It only gets spiritual when I say how the fact that we don’t forget our memories, therefore but have a vessel past death. Thats not our brain for us to acsses these memories. If we can’t access our memories after death we can’t remember living therefore never never knowing of our existence at all.

3 hours ago, TheVat said:

So the thread seems to be asking if there is reincarnation with memory transfer.  The answer might be this is a metaphysical conjecture which has not been empirically determined.  All evidence to date (usually from children claiming past life memories) is tainted by possible coaching from parents, information leakage, leading questions, and memories so vague or generic they could just be fantasy from an imaginative mind.   The prominent investigator in this area, Ian Stevenson, seemed to me to be an earnest and dedicated researcher but gullible.

And related theories like Sheldrake's morphic resonance, which posits a kind of memory inherent in all matter, also lack support.  Though Sheldrake I give credit for at least breaking it down into testable hypotheses.

 

Nope not at all it’s more that fact that you have memory in the first place. Let me explain. If I die my brain dies to, along with all my knowledge and memories, because scientifically your brain is how memory is made. But if your entire life memory goes away, then how could you remember it. To know something you must always know it. If you forget it then you would forget you ever knew it. We’re still talking on a bigger scale here since your dead and your brain is to, along with all the memories you’ve ever had. Then there would in turn be no memory of ever existing. But to say all that since I am here then and remember my existence, then my brain will still obviously die. But how could I still have those memories, therefore I must have a place to house those memories a vessel if you will. One after death, hence an afterlife 

[m_m]

Just now, Migveg19 said:

Yes and no. Yes this is about memories. No to everything else. I see you and others, think of this more spiritually and or emotionally. But really this a complete science based idea, ( ik I posted it on philosophy forum) and has to do more with the need for a vessel like a Brain, to hold memories. It only gets spiritual when I say how the fact that we don’t forget our memories, therefore but have a vessel past death. Thats not our brain for us to acsses these memories. If we can’t access our memories after death we can’t remember living therefore never never knowing of our existence at all.

But it IS a spiritual thing. So, what is memory, according to science? And something else. What is a thought?  This voice in your head. Where does it come from? How do you think yourself, without books?

[Migveg19]

8 minutes ago, m_m said:

But it IS a spiritual thing. So, what is memory, according to science? And something else. What is a thought?  This voice in your head. Where does it come from? How do you think yourself, without books?

Well I think that the answer your looking for is People "think to themselves" to process information, make decisions, reflect on experiences, plan for the future, regulate emotions, solve problems, and generally understand their own thoughts and feelings - essentially, it's a way to engage in internal dialogue and mental exploration, often without needing to verbalize it to others. but really it’s just electric signals in the brain. You need to be an able to think to do all that’s listed above, And your brain just gives you a way to do that. Survival and all that but now that it’s less about survival. We have evolved to use those thinking processes for more intellectual reasons. We have gotten very close with that “ voice” in our head. But I also saw a video that said not everyone uses an internal monologue(voice).and that some use imagery to think.

18 minutes ago, m_m said:

But it IS a spiritual thing. So, what is memory, according to science? And something else. What is a thought?  This voice in your head. Where does it come from? How do you think yourself, without books?

and for memory’s I found this for you 

Scientifically, memory is a biological process where the brain forms connections between neurons, called synapses, to store information, essentially creating neural circuits that represent experiences and allow for later retrieval of that information; in simpler terms, memories are formed by strengthening connections between brain cells through repeated exposure to stimuli, allowing us to recall past events or knowledge

[m_m]

Just now, Migveg19 said:

Scientifically, memory is a biological process where the brain forms connections between neurons, called synapses, to store information, essentially creating neural circuits that represent experiences and allow for later retrieval of that information; in simpler terms, memories are formed by strengthening connections between brain cells through repeated exposure to stimuli, allowing us to recall past events or knowledge

I'll write this carefully.

You are writing about a brain. And our brain is situated in our head, literally. The head is a part of our body, literally. So, can we change the word "brain" to the word "body"? 

 

You haven't answered a question, what is a thought? Have you ever seen thoughts? Maybe during some neuro surgery? On a video?