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Eskimo Pie is no longer. The Cleveland Indians are no longer. The Washington Redskins are no longer. The cook on the Cream of Wheat box is no longer. Aunt Jemima is no longer. ESKIMO is a fun word. INDIAN is a fun word. The COOK made Cream of Wheat fun to eat. Ford got rid of the MERCURY trademark because it is a Roman god which might offend folks of other faiths. PONTIAC was Native American so General Motors axed it. PLYMOUTH is gone from Chrysler Motors because the name sounds too Anglo-Saxon. The OLD in OLDSMOBILE might have offended the anti-ageism crowd. Who knows?

I hate it when there are those woke-sters who make every effort to rid America of her unique heritage and culture. My mother always bought Eskimo Pie. All that said, I will NEVER buy an Edy's Pie! Fat Boy and Klondike with the polar bear on the label are fine by me.

PS - The Woke Police and others on the Left are out to take away anything that is FUN!
 


 

Posted
25 minutes ago, JohnDBarrow said:

I hate it when there are those woke-sters

Whah…. Whah… whah… does someone need a snack or new diaper?

Posted
1 hour ago, JohnDBarrow said:

I hate it when there are those woke-sters who make every effort to rid America of her unique heritage and culture.

The heritage you're talking about is pretty sick and twisted. America, home of the free and brave, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free, all people are created equal, and all of it meaningless to hypocrites like you. You don't care that many of the words you use on people who don't look like you are hurtful and disparaging. You just want your childhood back, when people didn't complain about your racism and inhumanity. It's a shame you've rejected humankind.

What we have today is a whole lot of people who don't want to be hypocrites like you anymore. We want the USA to actually be the home of the free, free from white nationalists and religious zealotry, a place where everyone can pursue dreams (unless they're dreams like yours, where you dream of using hurtful words and phrases on whomever you like). The only thing we can't tolerate is your lack of tolerance. You diminish our society with your pursuit of criticism and mediocrity. Wake up and smell the diversity. 

You should watch some David Attenborough docs. He'll convince you that diversity is the key to the survival of life on this planet.

Posted

I think it is a great sign that folks are offended by that. It suggests that their life is going so well that they have time to actually be upset about that.

Posted
1 hour ago, JohnDBarrow said:

INDIAN is a fun word.

And describes people in India.  Just as Lakota is a fun word that describes indigenous people in the northern Plains.

Didn't your parents teach you to address people by the names they prefer to go by?  

1 hour ago, JohnDBarrow said:

The Washington Redskins are no longer.

Yep, for some reason people decided calling a sports team a racial insult was not so great.  Would you have also lamented the passing of a team called The Detroit Niggers? (apologies for offensive language, just making a point as crystal clear as possible)

2 hours ago, JohnDBarrow said:

PONTIAC was Native American so General Motors axed it.

Liar.  Poor sales led to ending that line.  They still call their SUV a Denali, also an indigenous peoples name.

2 hours ago, JohnDBarrow said:

Ford got rid of the MERCURY trademark because it is a Roman god which might offend folks of other faiths

Liar, again.  Decline in sales.  What absolute horseshit you spew on this forum.  Also note that a new line of EVs is called Hyperion.  A search engine would probably find several more vehicles with Greek or Roman god names 

 

2 hours ago, JohnDBarrow said:

ESKIMO is a fun word

So what?  Those people are Inuits.  Get over it.  Would your prefer to be called John Barrow or instead some name a random French fur trader gave you?  Would you agree to be called Palpstonk Gleeblepog if it made older men more comfortable eating ice cream sandwiches?

Posted
2 hours ago, JohnDBarrow said:

Eskimo Pie is no longer. The Cleveland Indians are no longer. The Washington Redskins are no longer. The cook on the Cream of Wheat box is no longer. Aunt Jemima is no longer. ESKIMO is a fun word. INDIAN is a fun word. The COOK made Cream of Wheat fun to eat. Ford got rid of the MERCURY trademark because it is a Roman god which might offend folks of other faiths. PONTIAC was Native American so General Motors axed it. PLYMOUTH is gone from Chrysler Motors because the name sounds too Anglo-Saxon. The OLD in OLDSMOBILE might have offended the anti-ageism crowd. Who knows?

I hate it when there are those woke-sters who make every effort to rid America of her unique heritage and culture. My mother always bought Eskimo Pie. All that said, I will NEVER buy an Edy's Pie! Fat Boy and Klondike with the polar bear on the label are fine by me.

PS - The Woke Police and others on the Left are out to take away anything that is FUN!
 


 

What is your opinion of the Civil Rights Act? Do you see that as part of American heritage and culture, or a manifestation of beastly wokeness?

Posted

Can you imagine "Indigenous" (as opposed to Indian) motorcycles?

How about making woke changes in The Christmas Song:

"Chestnuts roasting on an open fire
Jack Frost nipping at your TITS
Yuletide carols being sung by a choir
And folks dressed up like INUITS."
 

Bob Dylan revised:

 

Ev'rybody's building the big ships and the boats
Some are building monuments
Others are jotting down notes
Ev'rybody's in despair
Ev'ry girl and boy
But when Quinn the INUIT gets here
Ev'rybody's jump for joy
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn
 
I like to do just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet
But guarding fumes and making haste
It ain't my cup of meat
Ev'rybody's just standing 'round 'neath the trees
Feeding pigeons on a limb
But when Quinn the INUIT gets here
Them pigeons'll go to him
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn
 
A lamb bleat and a goat do, I can recite 'em all
Just tell me where it hurts
And I'll tell you who to call
Nobody can get any sleep
There's someone on ev'ryone's toes
But when Quinn the INUIT gets here
Ev'rybody's gonna doze
 
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn
Posted
11 minutes ago, JohnDBarrow said:

Can you imagine "Indigenous" (as opposed to Indian) motorcycles?

How about making woke changes in The Christmas Song:

"Chestnuts roasting on an open fire
Jack Frost nipping at your TITS
Yuletide carols being sung by a choir
And folks dressed up like INUITS."
 

Bob Dylan revised:

 

Ev'rybody's building the big ships and the boats
Some are building monuments
Others are jotting down notes
Ev'rybody's in despair
Ev'ry girl and boy
But when Quinn the INUIT gets here
Ev'rybody's jump for joy
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn
 
I like to do just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet
But guarding fumes and making haste
It ain't my cup of meat
Ev'rybody's just standing 'round 'neath the trees
Feeding pigeons on a limb
But when Quinn the INUIT gets here
Them pigeons'll go to him
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn
 
A lamb bleat and a goat do, I can recite 'em all
Just tell me where it hurts
And I'll tell you who to call
Nobody can get any sleep
There's someone on ev'ryone's toes
But when Quinn the INUIT gets here
Ev'rybody's gonna doze
 
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn

Nobody has proposed anything so silly, though. So you are making a straw man to make fun of, aren’t you? Are you a teenager? 

Posted
32 minutes ago, exchemist said:

Nobody has proposed anything so silly, though. So you are making a straw man to make fun of, aren’t you? Are you a teenager? 

Well, racist lyrics don't bother you? What gives? 

Posted
Just now, JohnDBarrow said:

Well, racist lyrics don't bother you? What gives? 

So you think these are racist lyrics and you approve of them as such, right? So you are calling yourself a racist, apparently. 😁

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, exchemist said:

So you think these are racist lyrics and you approve of them as such, right? So you are calling yourself a racist, apparently. 😁

No, I'm asking you?  ESKIMO doesn't bother me. 

Edited by JohnDBarrow
Posted
3 hours ago, JohnDBarrow said:

My mother always bought Eskimo Pie.

Nobody trusted your mother to serve on a jury, or have her own bank account or credit cards, and she wasn't good enough for Ivy League colleges. She couldn't even decide NOT to have sex with your father from a legal stance, so caving in to you boys and your pie cravings was just part of her poor existence. Something tells me that if she'd known how hurtful the term was, she wouldn't have used it. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, JohnDBarrow said:

No, I'm asking you?  ESKIMO doesn't bother me.

But why do you get to be the arbiter of what’s offensive to others? You also don’t get to decide if it’s too hot or cold to do something outside for anyone but yourself. Do I get to decide that you can’t be offended if someone here called you a sh!thead, or cast aspersions on your mother, wife or daughter?

Posted (edited)

That it was traditional for the dominant majority to be casually insulting to minorities doesn't mean the loss of those traditions will make America worse*, nor preserving them lead to renewed greatness. Honky cracker boys (fun terms?) find those terms fun and funny and having it pointed out that those disparaged by them find them demeaning and offensive... is offensive. 

Seems like the ability to press those buttons and mobilise voters on such issues got the USA Donald Trump over the line for President.

(Or, as an Australian, make Australia, that has similar traditions, worse by calling them out for their offensiveness to minorities and discouraging their use.)

Edited by Ken Fabian
Posted (edited)

There was a king, then there was the American War of Independence.

There was slavery, then there wasn't.

There was prohibition, then there wasn't - even the constitution changes. (People who bang on about this or that amendment, what do they think "amendment" means?)

There was segregation, then there was, well, less.

Any American crying about change may as well go yell at a cloud, for not looking like a bunny as it did five minutes ago. At what date and time do they want to freeze the World?

We've had the issue of "Eskimo" come up in N.Z.:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/pascall-eskimos-lollies-changes-name-to-kiwi-inspired-explorers-after-racist-undertones/3XLNFY67TTIA3574BRT35TN5SA

Took a while, but I'm all for it. Removing a name that offended people doesn't affect the taste of the lolly. People offended by the change ... gosh there are some genuine issues in the World they could spend their time on.
 

Edited by pzkpfw
More italics makes everything better.
Posted
2 hours ago, JohnDBarrow said:

How about making woke changes in The Christmas Song:

"Chestnuts roasting on an open fire
Jack Frost nipping at your TITS

Wait ..."tits" is woke?  Starting to think this account is some sort of satirical performance art.

 

Posted
5 hours ago, JohnDBarrow said:

I hate it when there are those woke-sters who make every effort to rid America of her unique heritage and culture.

Your style of masculinity hasn't helped any society in over a thousand years. Real people are waking up to that fact that you're all a bunch of Neanderthals and we need to weed you out or suppress your influence enough to stop inhibiting the natural growth of our unique abilities, independent of our violent, regrettable, animalistic past. 

I hate it when dinosaurs insist everything was better when they were in charge. Take your walnut-sized brain and get out of here!

Posted
2 hours ago, JohnDBarrow said:

No, I'm asking you?  ESKIMO doesn't bother me. 

But you are the one claiming these lyrics are racist.  

Posted

Originally I skipped over the title of the thread. It is interesting to see that OP defines American culture and traditions as things that are associated with racism and colonialism. I mean, they are not wrong, but I am not sure that is what they were thinking.

Posted
36 minutes ago, CharonY said:

Originally I skipped over the title of the thread. It is interesting to see that OP defines American culture and traditions as things that are associated with racism and colonialism. I mean, they are not wrong, but I am not sure that is what they were thinking.

That seems to be the thrust of MAGA, too. “Things were better when we could be bigots and there were no repercussions”

Posted
3 hours ago, TheVat said:

Starting to think this account is some sort of satirical performance art.

Starting to?

Posted
4 hours ago, TheVat said:

Wait ..."tits" is woke?  Starting to think this account is some sort of satirical performance art.

 

This was conservative writer Bethany Mandel who had just published a new book on the subject, attempting to explain what ‘woke’ means to interviewer Briahna Joy Gray on 14  March 2023. Her new book was called "Stolen Youth: How Radicals are Erasing Innocence and Indoctrinating a Generation".

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W7iWEEcPKoQ

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