The movement to destroy American culture and traditions.

[Phi for All]

8 hours ago, Markus Hanke said:

If you consider it “fun” to mock minorities within your society and events in history that caused a lot of suffering, then you are clearly lacking an appropriate moral compass.

For too long, many of these issues have been pushed on us as political, where a vote can decide, but whether you respect someone as a human enough to use non-hurtful terms is a moral issue. Persecuting fellow humans for the color of their skin or who they love or how much money they have isn't a right vs left, liberal vs conservative decision, it's a right vs wrong matter. 

[iNow]

[Janus]

10 hours ago, Markus Hanke said:

If you consider it “fun” to mock minorities within your society and events in history that caused a lot of suffering, then you are clearly lacking an appropriate moral compass.

 

Like the "fun" of calling a Finnish person a "China-Swede" while lifting up the sides of your eyes with your fingers. 

[swansont]

8 hours ago, exchemist said:

Regarding a "king", it seems to me the majority of US voters are yearning for someone to rule like a king: capriciously, without regard for the other institutions of the state: an absolute monarch. Certainly it seems to me that the USA in 2025 is a lot closer to an absolute monarchy than, say, the UK, Denmark or Spain. 

Trump did not get a majority, and the victory margin was quite thin. And we need to wait and see how much buyer’s remorse sets in. I suspect it won’t be that long until finding people who admit voting for him will be harder.

[exchemist]

3 hours ago, swansont said:

Trump did not get a majority, and the victory margin was quite thin. And we need to wait and see how much buyer’s remorse sets in. I suspect it won’t be that long until finding people who admit voting for him will be harder.

I hope that is true. 

[Markus Hanke]

13 hours ago, Phi for All said:

For too long, many of these issues have been pushed on us as political, where a vote can decide, but whether you respect someone as a human enough to use non-hurtful terms is a moral issue.

Exactly +1

And in reverse, there are also issues being portrayed as moral choices that in reality have little to nothing to do with morality, eg drug addiction. 

Also, the title of this thread has it exactly backwards - it is awareness of these issues that ensures society can continue to improve and thus remain stable, rather than such awareness being a destructive influence. Historically, many of the great empires (eg the Romans, the Ottomans, the USSR,…) failed and collapsed precisely because they didn’t address their issues of inequality and moral inconsistency. History provides us with all the necessary data points.

[Ariodos]

5 hours ago, Markus Hanke said:

Exactly +1

And in reverse, there are also issues being portrayed as moral choices that in reality have little to nothing to do with morality, eg drug addiction. 

Also, the title of this thread has it exactly backwards - it is awareness of these issues that ensures society can continue to improve and thus remain stable, rather than such awareness being a destructive influence.

Historically, many of the great empires (eg the Romans, the Ottomans, the USSR,…) failed and collapsed precisely because they didn’t address their issues of inequality and moral inconsistency. 

History provides us with all the necessary data points.

One such way is through different hobbies like rokubet-oferta

 

It seems history is repeating itself and we still haven't learned. Who knows, maybe the next great project to fix society will start with understanding these problems

[Markus Hanke]

1 hour ago, Ariodos said:

It seems history is repeating itself and we still haven't learned.

That’s because the human psyche is still the same; we are still subject to and affected by the scourges of greed, hatred and delusion to varying degrees. Our technology and culture has evolved, but not our minds, so no matter what political system we put in place, the same human tendencies will continue to crop up, and thus things like fundamentalism, extreme nationalism etc etc will continue to manifest themselves when the conditions are conducive. 

[JohnDBarrow]

18 hours ago, swansont said:

Trump did not get a majority, and the victory margin was quite thin. And we need to wait and see how much buyer’s remorse sets in. I suspect it won’t be that long until finding people who admit voting for him will be harder.

5 million American popular votes is "thin "? What about Don's getting 312 electoral votes to the anti-gun dame's 226? 

[swansont]

3 minutes ago, JohnDBarrow said:

5 million American popular votes is "thin "?

Out of ~155 million votes, it would be small, but since he won by less than half of that, it's thin.

Compared with the margin of recent elections it’s quite thin. Not as thin as 2016, which was negative, or Bush in 2000, but smaller than other elections dating back to Carter in 1976, when Carter got only slightly more than half of the votes that Trump did (40.8 million vs 77.3)

3 minutes ago, JohnDBarrow said:

What about Don's getting 312 electoral votes to the anti-gun dame's 226? 

That says a lot about how the electoral college is structured. Biden got 306 four years ago, and there were no shouts about a mandate. Obama got 365 in 2008, and we didn’t get the mandate nonsense we’re getting now.

Did Kamala run on an “anti-gun” platform, or is that some more “alternative” truth?

[CharonY]

5 hours ago, Markus Hanke said:

That’s because the human psyche is still the same; we are still subject to and affected by the scourges of greed, hatred and delusion to varying degrees. Our technology and culture has evolved, but not our minds, so no matter what political system we put in place, the same human tendencies will continue to crop up, and thus things like fundamentalism, extreme nationalism etc etc will continue to manifest themselves when the conditions are conducive. 

A newer problem is that technology has evolved to be better affect our minds. Similar to a pathogen getting a better foothold on the host. That in part will likely feed into our base proclivities and in turn be a path towards extremism.