nec209 Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM Why do some people here say Trump is sexist? How sexist his Trump? I notice some people say that Trump is sexist and hates women? Is that true? When you look at the congressman and senators is it about the same has Biden or the white house or when you look at Trump cabinet ministers like department education, department of finance, department of healthcare so on. Is there major difference? Mostly all guys now?
swansont Posted yesterday at 02:30 AM Posted yesterday at 02:30 AM 1 hour ago, nec209 said: When you look at the congressman and senators is it about the same has Biden What does that have to do with Trump? He doesn’t appoint them. (and all senators are members of congress, but not all members of congress are senators) The prevailing view in the GOP is that women are inferior and exist to make babies (and perhaps sandwiches). Women are not treated as equals. It’s not a question of whether he is sexist, but to what degree. As to the specific composition of Trump’s appointees: go google it
CharonY Posted yesterday at 02:36 AM Posted yesterday at 02:36 AM 1 hour ago, nec209 said: Why do some people here say Trump is sexist? How sexist his Trump? Look, if at this point you do not know that he has sexually assaulted folks (with one civil conviction verifying that) and his loooong history of misconduct and other issues you have some serious reading to do (or listening, in case of the bus tape). To be able to ask meaningful questions one needs at least a minimum of a baseline to formulate questions from. If none of the mentioned things rings any bells, consider yourself lucky and you might as well stop your inquiry as apparently you live in a magical place where media does not reach you.
nec209 Posted yesterday at 02:43 AM Author Posted yesterday at 02:43 AM 4 minutes ago, CharonY said: Look, if at this point you do not know that he has sexually assaulted folks (with one civil conviction verifying that) and his loooong history of misconduct and other issues you have some serious reading to do (or listening, in case of the bus tape). To be able to ask meaningful questions one needs at least a minimum of a baseline to formulate questions from. If none of the mentioned things rings any bells, consider yourself lucky and you might as well stop your inquiry as apparently you live in a magical place where media does not reach you. I don’t care what Trump did when he was kid but what he is doing now. I’m not sure if he so sexist he believes women have no right to get government job and most of all his appointees are all men. -2
CharonY Posted yesterday at 02:50 AM Posted yesterday at 02:50 AM 2 minutes ago, nec209 said: I don’t care what Trump did when he was kid but what he is doing now. Excuse me, kid? Are you purposefully obtuse? He was 50 when he assaulted Carroll, and around 60 when he confessed that he would randomly assault women. So as long as he hasn't been convicted to assault women in the, oh last 4-8 years, he clearly is not a misogynist? We expect discussions to be had in good faith, and this is pretty strong evidence that this is not happening here.
Peterkin Posted yesterday at 04:16 AM Posted yesterday at 04:16 AM 2 hours ago, nec209 said: Why do some people here say Trump is sexist? How sexist his Trump? Sexist, racist - name your bigotry, he's manifesting it. That doesn't mean he believes it. He's a narcissist: doesn't care about anybody one way or the other, just he can use them - even if only as golf balls. 2 hours ago, nec209 said: Is there major difference? Mostly all guys now? I would consider competence for the job a difference, yes. 1 hour ago, nec209 said: I’m not sure if he so sexist he believes women have no right to get government job and most of all his appointees are all men. They're his supporters. No, they're not all men. Quote Trump has so far named eight women to Cabinet-level positions — double the four initially named for his first term. His appointment of Susie Wiles to be his chief of staff makes her the first woman to hold that position in U.S. history. And he has chosen other women for high-level posts, such as press secretary and surgeon general.https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5027243-trump-appoints-women-key-posts/
exchemist Posted yesterday at 06:25 AM Posted yesterday at 06:25 AM 5 hours ago, nec209 said: Why do some people here say Trump is sexist? How sexist his Trump? I notice some people say that Trump is sexist and hates women? Is that true? When you look at the congressman and senators is it about the same has Biden or the white house or when you look at Trump cabinet ministers like department education, department of finance, department of healthcare so on. Is there major difference? Mostly all guys now? This is a silly troll thread you have started. Post about something sensible, can’t you? We’ve got better things to do than go over well-worn topics to do with TFG’s personality.
Sensei Posted yesterday at 07:42 AM Posted yesterday at 07:42 AM 6 hours ago, nec209 said: I notice some people say that Trump is sexist and hates women? Is that true? Didn't you confuse sexists with misogynists?
nec209 Posted yesterday at 01:30 PM Author Posted yesterday at 01:30 PM 5 hours ago, Sensei said: Didn't you confuse sexists with misogynists? So Trump is sexists but not misogynists. He has women in the white house working but they doing mostly basic work or I’m wrong and he has some them working in basic work but they all pointed by looks and loyal to him?
swansont Posted yesterday at 02:00 PM Posted yesterday at 02:00 PM 29 minutes ago, nec209 said: So Trump is sexists but not misogynists. I would argue that he is both.
Phi for All Posted yesterday at 02:10 PM Posted yesterday at 02:10 PM 36 minutes ago, nec209 said: So Trump is sexists but not misogynists. Misogyny is just a more overt sexism. TFG fits all those definitions, including rapist, felon, traitor, and criminal.
nec209 Posted yesterday at 02:21 PM Author Posted yesterday at 02:21 PM (edited) 11 minutes ago, Phi for All said: Misogyny is just a more overt sexism. TFG fits all those definitions, including rapist, felon, traitor, and criminal. The reason I’m asking is sexism/sexists belief females are inferior to men and should not have skilled jobs or be skilled position and inferior and dumb where misogynists just hates women and belief they are trash and dumb and should stay home. That is why I’m asking what is his appointees. A misogynists would say females are taking jobs from men and the White House should be all men. Well if he is sexists he would say females can work in the White House if it is non skill work. That why I’m asking how sexists is he and his he really misogynists? Edited yesterday at 02:21 PM by nec209
Phi for All Posted yesterday at 02:37 PM Posted yesterday at 02:37 PM 13 minutes ago, nec209 said: The reason I’m asking is sexism/sexists belief females are inferior to men and should not have skilled jobs or be skilled position and inferior and dumb where misogynists just hates women and belief they are trash and dumb and should stay home. A distinction without a difference. I'll say it a different way. Sexism and misogyny, in the context you're talking about, are the exact same thing.
toucana Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 13 hours ago, nec209 said: Why do some people here say Trump is sexist? How sexist his Trump? I notice some people say that Trump is sexist and hates women? Is that true? When you look at the congressman and senators is it about the same has Biden or the white house or when you look at Trump cabinet ministers like department education, department of finance, department of healthcare so on. Is there major difference? Mostly all guys now? If you are interested in the gender distribution of recent Congressional committee appointments then you might want to check out the stats listed here: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republican-women-chosen-lead-house-committees-time-decades/story?id=116764680 According to this, Virginia Foxx (R-NC) aged 81 is the only woman to be named by House Speaker Mike Johnson to lead a House Committee in the 119th Congress, as the chairwoman of the powerful House Rules Committee. The chairs of another 17 standing committees announced so far are entirely populated by white men. https://scalise.house.gov/press-releases/Scalise-Applauds-Committee-Chairs-for-119th-Congress As Swansont pointed out, Trump isn’t directly responsible for any of these appointments, but House Speaker Mike Johnson who does make these decisions is basically a ventriloquist’s dummy who enacts Trump’s will at every turn - case in point - last week when Mike Johnson dismissed the widely respected Republican Mike Turner (R-Ohio) from his position atop the House Intelligence Committee - and did so directly on orders from Mar-a-Lago according to multiple sources. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-johnson-removes-mike-turner-house-intelligence-chairman/ Trump has a long history of demonstrating extreme hostility towards empowered and intelligent women, especially if they dare to criticise or contradict him. This was seen on the Inauguration day earlier this week when Trump had a meltdown after hearing a sermon by the female Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde at the National Cathedral Prayer service in which she called on him to have mercy on transgender children and immigrant families. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5099730-donald-trump-criticizes-bishop-transgender-migrants/ You can read Trump’s subsequent tirade against her on his Truth Social platform here: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113870397327465225 Trump is a malignant narcissist and conceited fool who cannot withstand the slightest scrutiny or contradiction from anyone - especially women - which de facto makes him a misogynist - “a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women” (NOA Dictionary)
Peterkin Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, nec209 said: The reason I’m asking is sexism/sexists belief females are inferior to men and should not have skilled jobs or be skilled position and inferior and dumb where misogynists just hates women and belief they are trash and dumb and should stay home. That is far from a comprehensive definition. You don't have to hate women in order to have an incorrect view of them. You don't have to hate society in order to organize it badly, or the rule of law in order to make counterproductive laws. Some people believe that society works best with everyone having strictly assigned places in it, according to simple designations according to birth: peasant, soldier, labourer, breeder, cleric, landowner, aristocrat, prelate, ruler. Hate is not necessary to promote social injustice; ignorance and self-interest are quite sufficient. Anyway, skill has nothing to do with Trump's government appointments. He doesn't hate anyone except those who criticize him and doesn't love anyone except those who applaud him - and both sentiments can flip at a moment's notice.
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