Christian nationalism (split from The movement to destroy American culture and traditions.)

[Peterkin]

3 hours ago, swansont said:

Constitutional protections can’t be wiped away by EOs.

Wait and watch.

29 minutes ago, swansont said:

Federal judges and SCOTUS may end up being complicit, but it will require their help.

The ones who are not 'helping' will be replaced, whether he decides to ditch the religious faction or not. He intends to issue a lot more illegal and unconstitutional edicts that just banning gender non-conformity and exiling landed immigrants. And if he hurts the economy too much and doesn't live long enough, there are hands ready to catch the ... maybe too many hands? ... torch   

[swansont]

1 hour ago, TheVat said:

And if that doesn't work, that's where the more serious and dedicated dictator declares martial law.  Though El Douche will probably save that move for 2028 if it looks like the voters who were suppressed in 2024 are jumping over the various hurdles next time they try.  

https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/

 

2026, if it’s obvious the GOP is going to lose either branch of congress because of failed policies 

44 minutes ago, Peterkin said:

Wait and watch.

There are five lawsuits from 22 states challenging the citizenship EO. It’s already in the hands of the courts.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/federal-judge-to-hear-states-lawsuit-against-trumps-cancellation-of-birthright-citizenship

[Peterkin]

1 hour ago, swansont said:

It’s already in the hands of the courts.

Oh, goodie! We've seen Trump's egregious wrongdoings in the hands of the courts.

[swansont]

1 hour ago, Peterkin said:

Oh, goodie! We've seen Trump's egregious wrongdoings in the hands of the courts.

He’s been handed lots of legal setbacks, just not when he is the defendant. Out of 60 lawsuits filed after the 2020 election alleging fraud, he has thus far won 1 of them. (7 still ongoing)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election

He doesn’t seem to have the best lawyers working for him.

[Peterkin]

3 hours ago, swansont said:

He doesn’t seem to have the best lawyers working for him.

It hardly matters when you either own or can intimidate the judges and law enforcement agencies.

If the law worked, he'd be in prison, not the White House.

[dimreepr]

18 hours ago, swansont said:

Is it? You need to show that this is the case. America doesn’t have a national religion, unlike around 20 that have Christianity as theirs

I don't think this is a question of religion.

For more than a century America has been the most powerful cultural influence in the world, what happens in America is transmitted across the world; infecting the allies first.

You have Trump and we follow with our copy, Boris and Nigel.

I think it's more a question of the realisation that the American dream can only be won by the house, so let's make our house impenetrable with a prayer.

Fundamentally, I think the USA is starting to collapse under it's own gravity...

[swansont]

1 hour ago, dimreepr said:

I don't think this is a question of religion.

If religion weren’t an element it wouldn’t be called Christian nationalism. I mean, it’s right there in the name, and quite prominent in the ideology.

8 hours ago, Peterkin said:

It hardly matters when you either own or can intimidate the judges and law enforcement agencies.

And yet we’ve seen where Trump-appointed judges have ruled against his screeds.

8 hours ago, Peterkin said:

If the law worked, he'd be in prison, not the White House.

That’s criminal law. As I pointed out already, he’s been stymied quite often in civil matters.

[dimreepr]

26 minutes ago, swansont said:

If religion weren’t an element it wouldn’t be called Christian nationalism. I mean, it’s right there in the name, and quite prominent in the ideology.

Your assumption is Chistian is the name of the religion, your ideology assumes correctness...

[swansont]

2 hours ago, dimreepr said:

Your assumption is Chistian is the name of the religion, your ideology assumes correctness...

Oh, yeah, I guess I’m assuming that it’s not nationalism promoted by guys named Christian, by, y’know, the description of it.

I’m tempted to say “Could you be more of an obtuse ass?” but I’m afraid you’d take as a challenge. If you’re not interested in engaging in a good-faith discussion, one option is to just not post.

[dimreepr]

21 hours ago, swansont said:

Oh, yeah, I guess I’m assuming that it’s not nationalism promoted by guys named Christian, by, y’know, the description of it.

I’m tempted to say “Could you be more of an obtuse ass?” but I’m afraid you’d take as a challenge. If you’re not interested in engaging in a good-faith discussion, one option is to just not post.

Yeah, that post was embarrassing, drunk as charged...

But my point, is that we're seeing this issue from different perspectives; mine is the savage pointing at the king, with a dumb question that's difficult to explain; you're the suffisticate with knowledge of the nuance that explains why the fabric is so sheer.

From my perspective America seems to be the perfect breeding ground for nationalistic tendencies above that, or at least equal to religious nationalism, I think this is the result of the fundamental promise from the government, that we're all equally likely to hit the jackpot if we work hard enough.