iNow Posted Sunday at 03:53 AM Posted Sunday at 03:53 AM 6 hours ago, Phi for All said: You seem to think we aren't part of the nature we observe. His earlier threads suggest instead he thinks everything across nature and the cosmos itself is alive, including rocks and air and solar winds. He uses the language of biological life and reproduction to bootstrap his everything in the universe is oneness narrative. While separate, his thoughts in this thread are very clearly overlapping.
exchemist Posted Sunday at 10:57 AM Posted Sunday at 10:57 AM 7 hours ago, iNow said: His earlier threads suggest instead he thinks everything across nature and the cosmos itself is alive, including rocks and air and solar winds. He uses the language of biological life and reproduction to bootstrap his everything in the universe is oneness narrative. While separate, his thoughts in this thread are very clearly overlapping. Interesting. Sounds a little bit like (a very muffled version of) Teilhard de Chardin.
Genady Posted Sunday at 11:17 AM Posted Sunday at 11:17 AM 7 hours ago, iNow said: he thinks everything across nature and the cosmos itself is alive alive and conscious.
Luc Turpin Posted Sunday at 01:26 PM Posted Sunday at 01:26 PM 8 hours ago, iNow said: His earlier threads suggest instead he thinks everything across nature and the cosmos itself is alive, including rocks and air and solar winds. He uses the language of biological life and reproduction to bootstrap his everything in the universe is oneness narrative. While separate, his thoughts in this thread are very clearly overlapping. The art of amplifying a thought to its extreme in order to ridicule or mock it. Now, is that a productive tactic in a good discussion? And just to add a little flair, how about downvoting this post too? 1 hour ago, Genady said: alive and conscious. It’s possible that nature is more alive and conscious than we initially thought, though not everything possesses life or awareness. In previous posts, I’ve provided numerous examples suggesting that nature is more alive than we once believed. As for consciousness, I’ve presented human experiences that seem perplexing when viewed through a purely brain-based lens, suggesting that there may be aspects of consciousness we don't yet understand—maybe, just maybe, there’s more to it than we think. 1 hour ago, exchemist said: Interesting. Sounds a little bit like (a very muffled version of) Teilhard de Chardin. I share some affinities with de Chardin, though not all of his ideas, particularly the noosphere. I’m also influenced by thinkers like Stapp, Josephson, Capra (expirential), Hameroff, and Penrose—those who believe there’s more to life and consciousness than our current understanding suggests. However, this perspective doesn’t extend to inanimate matter like rocks, air, or solar winds, as pointed out earlier.
Genady Posted Sunday at 01:32 PM Posted Sunday at 01:32 PM 5 minutes ago, Luc Turpin said: maybe Maybe. Maybe not. Go ahead, investigate. When you have something, maybe there will be something to discuss.
Luc Turpin Posted Sunday at 01:36 PM Posted Sunday at 01:36 PM Just now, Genady said: Maybe. Maybe not. Go ahead, investigate. When you have something, maybe there will be something to discuss. How about all the references to studies I've already posted, which were mostly overlooked? It seems they were dismissed as irrelevant without being properly assessed.
Genady Posted Sunday at 01:38 PM Posted Sunday at 01:38 PM 1 minute ago, Luc Turpin said: How about all the references to studies I've already posted, which were mostly overlooked? It seems they were dismissed as irrelevant without being properly assessed. They all support the chemical-physical view of life.
dimreepr Posted Sunday at 01:53 PM Posted Sunday at 01:53 PM 10 minutes ago, Luc Turpin said: How about all the references to studies I've already posted, which were mostly overlooked? It seems they were dismissed as irrelevant without being properly assessed. Haven't you learned anything??? 'Mind the gap' is an underground meme...
Luc Turpin Posted Sunday at 02:00 PM Posted Sunday at 02:00 PM 21 minutes ago, Genady said: They all support the chemical-physical view of life. I strongly disagree! 6 minutes ago, dimreepr said: Haven't you learned anything??? 'Mind the gap' is an underground meme... Don't get it!
Genady Posted Sunday at 02:01 PM Posted Sunday at 02:01 PM Just now, Luc Turpin said: I strongly disagree! It does not matter.
dimreepr Posted Sunday at 02:04 PM Posted Sunday at 02:04 PM 1 minute ago, Luc Turpin said: I strongly disagree! Don't get it! Hmmm, I strongly disagree with something I don't understand, "mind the gap"???
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