seanash Posted February 4 Posted February 4 If there are individuals or large groups who are forced to live around each other and if either party or both parties hate each other due to conflicts or past injustices commited by either or both of due to repulsion to each other (I.e various tribes or individuals find other tribe's or individual's practices abhorrent). Then is there a way to peacefully dissolve the situation and work towards peacebuilding ? Since there is a likelihood the hating parties or aggrieved parties would definately not be open to changing their views or would have a strong sense of righteousness , would such conflicts not be solvable by normal means ? Are there any mainstream academic psychology , sociology or social science informed theories or practices that could help
exchemist Posted February 4 Posted February 4 38 minutes ago, seanash said: If there are individuals or large groups who are forced to live around each other and if either party or both parties hate each other due to conflicts or past injustices commited by either or both of due to repulsion to each other (I.e various tribes or individuals find other tribe's or individual's practices abhorrent). Then is there a way to peacefully dissolve the situation and work towards peacebuilding ? Since there is a likelihood the hating parties or aggrieved parties would definately not be open to changing their views or would have a strong sense of righteousness , would such conflicts not be solvable by normal means ? Are there any mainstream academic psychology , sociology or social science informed theories or practices that could help Post-apartheid S. Africa and N. Ireland would appear to be useful case studies. Why not take a look at them and consider the common features of their approaches to the problem? I don't know what academic advice their respective governments may have taken, but I feel sure they must have sought out expertise in conflict resolution.
Genady Posted February 4 Posted February 4 2 hours ago, seanash said: solvable by normal means One of such means is to get or to make a common enemy.
dimreepr Posted February 4 Posted February 4 3 hours ago, exchemist said: Post-apartheid S. Africa and N. Ireland would appear to be useful case studies. Why not take a look at them and consider the common features of their approaches to the problem? I don't know what academic advice their respective governments may have taken, but I feel sure they must have sought out expertise in conflict resolution. Indeed, once they painted themselves into a corner, they thought outside of the box... 4 hours ago, seanash said: Are there any mainstream academic psychology , sociology or social science informed theories or practices that could help Yes, when in a pub fight possibility, shout "hold me back" and hope to fuck that your mates aren't so pissed that they just ignore you, and settle down for the nights entertainment... 😉
LuckyR Posted Sunday at 06:11 PM Posted Sunday at 06:11 PM On 2/4/2025 at 2:50 AM, Genady said: One of such means is to get or to make a common enemy. Exactly. That's why there won't be worldwide harmony until the Alien invasion.
iNow Posted Monday at 12:14 AM Posted Monday at 12:14 AM 6 hours ago, LuckyR said: Exactly. That's why there won't be worldwide harmony until the Alien invasion. The aliens will just further divide us, much like Covid
LuckyR Posted Monday at 07:41 PM Posted Monday at 07:41 PM 19 hours ago, iNow said: The aliens will just further divide us, much like Covid Well, while there were divisions about Covid POLICY, there was universal agreement that it was a bad thing to work against.
CharonY Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Posted Monday at 07:47 PM 4 minutes ago, LuckyR said: Well, while there were divisions about Covid POLICY, there was universal agreement that it was a bad thing to work against. Disagree, it was like this for perhaps two weeks. But there were plenty of folks who decided that it was not real, and even those dying from it claimed that the it is actually the hospitals that is killing them.
iNow Posted yesterday at 01:05 AM Posted yesterday at 01:05 AM 5 hours ago, LuckyR said: Well, while there were divisions about Covid POLICY, there was universal agreement that it was a bad thing to work against. Which planet were you on 5 years ago when all that went down, and do you have an extra ticket so I may visit there myself? 5 hours ago, CharonY said: Disagree, it was like this for perhaps two weeks. But there were plenty of folks who decided that it was not real, and even those dying from it claimed that the it is actually the hospitals that is killing them. Maybe he meant that lots of people thought it would be bad for us to try working against it. Lol “there was universal agreement that it was a bad thing to work against”
CharonY Posted yesterday at 01:35 AM Posted yesterday at 01:35 AM 26 minutes ago, iNow said: Which planet were you on 5 years ago when all that went down, and do you have an extra ticket so I may visit there myself? Maybe he meant that lots of people thought it would be bad for us to try working against it. Lol “there was universal agreement that it was a bad thing to work against” That would make a lot of sense. Like vaccinating folks against, you know, measles. Or perhaps not. I don't even know anymore. USA turned into North Korea. A brain worm seems to be leading health agencies, and folks consider one of their children dying from a preventable disease worth it to not vaccinate folks. I am fairly sure something is pranking us all, but I cannot figure out who.
dimreepr Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 13 hours ago, CharonY said: That would make a lot of sense. Like vaccinating folks against, you know, measles. Or perhaps not. I don't even know anymore. USA turned into North Korea. A brain worm seems to be leading health agencies, and folks consider one of their children dying from a preventable disease worth it to not vaccinate folks. I am fairly sure something is pranking us all, but I cannot figure out who. I am fairly sure it's you...
LuckyR Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 3/24/2025 at 12:47 PM, CharonY said: Disagree, it was like this for perhaps two weeks. But there were plenty of folks who decided that it was not real, and even those dying from it claimed that the it is actually the hospitals that is killing them. Not "plenty" by my use of the term. Over 90% of (those crazy) Americans and over 95% of Europeans didn't think that Covid was a hoax ("not real") when asked in 2023. Of course sizable minorities of folks think the virus was created in a lab, or that vaccines contained microchips or that the vaccines were secretly more dangerous than Big Pharma said they were etc. But that's wholely different from not wanting to fight and avoid the virus.
CharonY Posted 10 minutes ago Posted 10 minutes ago A survey in the UK by KCL foud about a quarter of folks that COVID19 was a hoax, about a third think it was a conspiracy of sorts. https://www.kcl.ac.uk/policy-institute/assets/conspiracy-belief-among-the-uk-public.pdf Suveys in 2020 in the US showed around 15% going up 20% depending on time (Fox and Trump effect, before he got sick) but they had slightly different questions. At the low end there were 10% with 20% being not sure... During an active pandemic, that is plenty to pose a serious public health risk, not to mention the much more sizeable portion of folks downplaying the risk. Even 10% denying an ongoing reality that has immediate impact is plenty. Imagine the same number of folks denying that cars can injure ppl on the road. Also, the protests against vaccinations and even masking. The response was far from universal and flummoxed public health. Folks clearly did not universally agree on working against the virus.
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