Trump said "they get it [data] very easily"

[CharonY]

2 hours ago, StringJunky said:

It'll be ironic if the 2nd Amendment fanatics start turning their guns on Trump and his allies eventually, when he likely turns his back on them. The 2A is, after all, intended as insurance against a tyrannical government.

Well, as you know it is a fake argument, anyway. Also he is their tyrant.

[toucana]

3 hours ago, iNow said:

I’m not here to defend Musk nor the choice to self-medicate, but encourage you not to so flippantly dismiss ketamine as a very helpful and viable treatment option for many millions of people, nor to use it as a rhetorical cudgel against those who choose to take it as you did here. 

You didn’t supply any scientific, clinical , or other medical evidence to support your own characterisation of ketamine as a “very helpful and viable treatment option for many millions of people”.  Absent that, I would refer you to:

https://www.oxfordhealth.nhs.uk/ips/ketamine-trd/risks-benefits/

Right up front this document says:

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“Ketamine is not a licensed treatment for depression and the effects of taking it long term are unknown. There may also be unusual side-effects which occur acutely which have not yet been reported.”

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"It is important to recognise that ketamine is not licensed as an antidepressant. It has not been evaluated in large, or long term, clinical trials.  This means that the long-term success rates have not been fully documented.”

Under the sub-tab ‘Less Common side-effects' it lists:  vivid dreams, hallucinations , and also adds this warning:

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“Mania. Unusually elevated mood which causes problems. Ketamine should be stopped immediately if you suspect this is happening. The ketamine team and your local team need to be informed promptly.”

Under 'Long Term Theoretical Risks' this paper lists: dependence, tolerance, bladder damage, cognitive impairment and personality change -  all with reference to recreational nasal doses of over 1g daily.

Given these caveats I don’t think I’m being remotely flippant or dismissive about the risks of self-medicating with ketamine - especially in the case of an absurdly wealthy and over-powerful oligarch like Elon Musk who has openly admitted that he is microdosing with ketamine to treat a significant personality disorder.

[iNow]

9 hours ago, toucana said:

You didn’t supply any scientific, clinical , or other medical evidence

Millions was too large, but that it’s rapidly being adopted in clinical settings with consistently positive effects seemed obvious to me in the same way I don’t need to prove 2+2=4 every time I post it.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/bjpsych-open/article/ketamine-for-the-treatment-of-mental-health-and-substance-use-disorders-comprehensive-systematic-review/36E261BFA62CDA6459B88F7777415FDA

https://www.pacificneuroscienceinstitute.org/blog/trip/what-is-ketamine-therapy/

 

12 hours ago, StringJunky said:

It'll be ironic if the 2nd Amendment fanatics start turning their guns on Trump and his allies eventually, when he likely turns his back on them. The 2A is, after all, intended as insurance against a tyrannical government.

[CharonY]

The on thing that is not believable is that there was embarrassment. You would need the ability to experience shame to feel that.

[CharonY]

Also regarding what geniuses Musk and his Doge team are:

https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/

 

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The doge.gov website that was spun up to track Elon Musk’s cuts to the federal government is insecure and pulls from a database that can be edited by anyone, according to two separate people who found the vulnerability and shared it with 404 Media. One coder added at least two database entries that are visible on the live site and say “this is a joke of a .gov site” and “THESE ‘EXPERTS’ LEFT THEIR DATABASE OPEN -roro.” 

This is exactly the level of expertise folks expect from people with unchecked access to sensitive data.

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Moscow has appealed to the US to identify exiled Russian opposition figures who received funding from America’s international aid agency, which Elon Musk described as a “criminal organisation”.

President Trump’s move to freeze international assistance for 90 days and suspend the work of the US Agency for International Development (USAid) has devastated funding for Russian opposition media and human rights groups.

Vyacheslav Volodin, the chairman of the Duma, Russia’s parliament, said on Tuesday: “If they recognised the [USAid] organisation as an enemy, let them give us the lists.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/europe/article/russia-elon-musk-list-names-dissidents-usaid-s798gktd7

I think this world is not well-suited for folks with long-term memory, it gets just too bizarre. I slowly realize the benefit of having TikTok-level of memory. You can just live in the moment and there is no context for anything. There is not pain of realization, just opium for the masses.

[exchemist]

Head of the Office of Goverment Ethics was fired this week:

 

This guy Schiff is rather good value, I must say. (As he should be: Stanford and Harvard Law School).

As he says in closing: "So much for draining the swamp". 

  

[dedo]

On 2/13/2025 at 8:25 AM, toucana said:

Given these caveats I don’t think I’m being remotely flippant or dismissive about the risks of self-medicating with ketamine - especially in the case of an absurdly wealthy and over-powerful oligarch like Elon Musk who has openly admitted that he is microdosing with ketamine to treat a significant personality disorder.

You are correct that "self dosing" is a dangerous practice.  Later in the article you quoted it does say ketamine is used for resistant depression.  Web sites in the US claim it is covered by insurance.  I doubt it is covered for home use.  

It was used and still is used as an anesthetic drug as it is a powerful analgesic.   In the hospital it is used under specific monitoring by people trained to resuscitate.  Not sure the protocols for use by psych. practitioners.  Without that monitoring I doubt it can be used safely.  There was a criminal case in the US where some EMTs gave it to a suspect police were trying to arrest & I believe the suspect died.  So using those drugs in unmonitored situations is unsafe.

[iNow]

I’m just saying please don’t use that as a path to disparage others. Too many people are benefiting from it and we should avoid creating an atmosphere of shame when they do. 

Elon is an asshole and a weirdo. He also self-medicates like a lot of neurodivergent tech bros do, but saying we should point and laugh specifically due to the ketamine use is misguided IMO

On another note, his “super brilliant” team of the “best engineers on the planet” left a back door into their databases open to public edits on their official DOGE website and got hacked. Lol

 

https://www.wired.com/story/the-official-doge-website-launch-was-a-security-mess/

[toucana]

23 minutes ago, iNow said:

On another note, his “super brilliant” team of the “best engineers on the planet” left a back door into their databases open to public edits on their official DOGE website and got hacked. Lol

https://www.wired.com/story/the-official-doge-website-launch-was-a-security-mess/

 

Members of Elon Musk’s DOGE team have exposed sensitive information about the NRO (National Reconnaissance Office) -  a secretive US intelligence agency responsible for running America’s highly classified satellite reconnaissance system.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-doge-shares-classified-215645625.html

The new DOGE.gov website only went live on Wednesday claiming to give Americans the ability to “trace your tax dollars through the bureaucracy.” The website was supposed to exclude data from U.S. intelligence agencies, but has instead published highly classified information about the staff and resources of the NRO which DOGE should never have been able to access in the first place.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration fired 300 staffers from the NNSA (National Nuclear Security Administration) without realising they were responsible for managing America’s strategic nuclear weapon stockpile.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/14/nx-s1-5298190/nuclear-agency-trump-firings-nnsa

Finally - during a Tuesday ‘presser’ in the White House Oval Office, Elon Musk  claimed that his DOGE team had found evidence of “150 year old people” receiving social security payments.  A COBOL programmer subsequently made this comment on X:

[exchemist]

So, Vance has laid it out clearly for us in Europe. We no longer have shared values with the USA and the USA is no longer an ally of Europe. 

NATO is now effectively dead. Which means  Eastern Europe is at serious risk of invasion. 

Welcome to World War III. 

Thanks, Vance.

[iNow]

1 hour ago, toucana said:

The new DOGE.gov website only went live on Wednesday

Based on what I can see from the outside looking in, it appears to me that he’s simply using it to drive info and posts on the X platform, and from their to train his AI.

Were I a betting man, I’d wager a large sum that his team is applying his Grok 3 “scary smart” xAI model to analyze this massive trove of new government data, allow one to query it for support of whatever preferred ideology they hold, and to gain a competitive edge against rival mega companies like openAI, meta, and Gemini (aka alphabet/Google)..