Pro’s and Con’s of Elon Musk

[CharonY]

1 hour ago, Trurl said:

 

Well you guys are either under estimate him or you don’t like the idea of someone who fits the profile of the perfect and successful scientist act like a jerk and wreck the political structures of the world.

That is what troubles me. You want Einstein’s genius with a great world view and personality. Instead you get Elon.

There is still no evidence of scientific acumen. Also, he  is not working as a scientist. You got jerk and wrecking things right, though.

In other words you merely use the shaky moniker of genius to justify his bad sides, including being a Nazi.

 

[dedo]

3 hours ago, swansont said:

I missed where anyone has proposed curing him of any afflictions/deficiencies. Seeing as this is posted in politics, the “something” we do about it are political solutions, not medical ones.

Agreed.  I don't think setting up some kind of clinic for autocrats will gain traction.  However, I thought I mentioned that if we understand more how the process works, markers for dangerous people, then they can be identified before they cause massive harm similar to the way addicts are spotted & removed.  Personally would guess that wanting other countries' land is a marker.

 

1 hour ago, J.C.MacSwell said:

Surely, though, you didn't look at Musk wielding the chainsaw without thinking a good lobotomy session was in order.

Reminded me of a character in the show, "Dexter".  I posted on EM's timeline that it was appropriate he chose that as something to identify with because of the show.

Maybe he will read it and reform his life never picking up a chainsaw again.

[Trurl]

No, I am saying that he could be a brilliant scientist working to improve the world, but every time he is on the web or tv he represents himself as an idiot.

This is why I can’t form an opinion. You know fake news. As I said before if he is doing wrong why hasn’t anyone tried to stop him. Democrats say he doesn’t have the power to fire federal workers and funds congress approved. Then act by righting a new law that isn’t passed. They are senators. I believe they could stop Elon if they wanted.

That is what disappoints me. They say things like this goes against rights and we go and do it anyhow. They claim Trump’s policies will reck us, but again we do it anyhow. I think a lot of politicians’ debate and opinions are just for show.

[Seten]

 

[Phi for All]

1 hour ago, Trurl said:

No, I am saying that he could be a brilliant scientist working to improve the world, but every time he is on the web or tv he represents himself as an idiot.

I thought you're a math guy. If he always represents himself as an idiot, maybe he's an idiot. A very aggressive, very rich, very dangerous idiot.

[CharonY]

1 hour ago, Trurl said:

No, I am saying that he could be a brilliant scientist working to improve the world, but every time he is on the web or tv he represents himself as an idiot.

 

Occam's razor, if there is no evidence of genius, why assume it?

1 hour ago, Trurl said:

As I said before if he is doing wrong why hasn’t anyone tried to stop him. Democrats say he doesn’t have the power to fire federal workers and funds congress approved. Then act by righting a new law that isn’t passed. They are senators. I believe they could stop Elon if they wanted.

There are currently dozens of lawsuits exactly trying to stop it. Going through courts is a slow process. A big issue is that he is being used as a wrecking ball by the GOP and a disposable at that. If things go wrong (which they likely will, given the lack of competence), they can always say that he was just an outside advisor and try to wash the stench off him. If for some reasons his actions prove to be liked by the public, they can wear the success, too.

[swansont]

2 hours ago, dedo said:

Agreed.  I don't think setting up some kind of clinic for autocrats will gain traction.  However, I thought I mentioned that if we understand more how the process works, markers for dangerous people, then they can be identified before they cause massive harm similar to the way addicts are spotted & removed.  Personally would guess that wanting other countries' land is a marker.

We’ve known who Trump is and still elected him president. This is related to the “information gap” error - the assumption that lack of knowledge is the problem, and can be fixed by filling in the gap. 

3 hours ago, Trurl said:

Well you guys are either under estimate him or you don’t like the idea of someone who fits the profile of the perfect and successful scientist act like a jerk and wreck the political structures of the world.

Or perhaps you’re so invested in him being a genius that you can’t accept any evidence to the contrary.

What scientific papers has he authored? I can’t find any. So how do you conclude that he’s a successful scientist? Because a company he owns, and that employs ~10,000 people (and the technical people are likely engineers and technicians rather than scientists) has done some things? That speaks to the competence of the employees, not him. You’re giving him credit for other peoples’ work

[J.C.MacSwell]

Musk's IQ has been estimated to be around 155 (for whatever that's worth). I have no doubt that at one time it was above 140, arguably the start of genius level (for what that's worth)

My issues with him would be more with both his intellectual and moral integrity.

https://brainmanager.io/blog/cognitive/what-is-elon-musk-iq