Could the static elecricity be considered to be a form of artificial gravity?

[tylers100]

I wonder if we could re-create a form of static electricity but stronger version (and hopefully safe too) of it for use onboard spacecraft and space station.

I can picture mentally of an electricity that could flow through object(s) with mass then when that occur so, the object mass gain energy temporarily at a given time as long electricity flows through then surely sub-sequentially yield a stronger gravitational attraction. I imagine would have to make objects whose density have to accompany dense geometry in order to accommodate extra energy. But I'm not sure about objects' (e.g. which ore material etc) sustainability or endurance could / would be (e.g. lead to decay as natural things would do).

[joigus]

Just off the top of my head, electrodynamic effects are many orders of magnitude stronger than gravitodynamic effects. Also, intense electrostatic fields induce polarisation in matter, that gravitation does not. You would have to maintain electrically charged elements on conductor surfaces (capacitor plates of some kind), rather than at center-of-gravity placement, which suggests strange effects like all your effective "weight" being placed at a particular surface.

Then capacitors tend to get discharged, so it sounds energy-costly.

I'm not an engineering-inclined person, so perhaps someone more technology-minded can offer better insights.

 

[Sensei]

You don't want to have electrostatic charges anywhere close to the electronics as it can easily damage ICs, break through circuit boards, break through cables, etc. etc.

Therefor all existence of antistatic insulators, antistatic devices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antistatic_device

 

[swansont]

4 hours ago, tylers100 said:

I can picture mentally of an electricity that could flow through object(s) with mass then when that occur so, the object mass gain energy temporarily at a given time as long electricity flows through then surely sub-sequentially yield a stronger gravitational attraction.

No, that won’t work.

There’s no extra energy there; any electrical energy in the system was there, or was converted from another form of energy that was there.

And c^2 is a big number, so the mass increase from adding energy from an external source is quite small.

A 1 GW device (a good-sized commercial nuclear reactor) for 1 year outputs 3.15 x 10^16 joules. That’s a about a third of a kg

[Sensei]

Electrostatic acceleration of ions and electrons (i.e. charged particles) is used in quantum physics experiments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_particle_accelerator

In the case of macroscopic objects, such as spacecraft, there could be problems with penetration through the insulator barrier, which would lead to damage to the electronics in such vehicles.

Not to mention the lethal levels of acceleration for humans.

 

 

[tylers100]

Weight Gain from Static Charging, paper:

link: https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=122650

^ Check out the link, I read it but do not fully understand it as I'm still learning.. but do know that it pertains to this thread minus the artificial gravity notion though.

[studiot]

12 hours ago, tylers100 said:

I wonder if we could re-create a form of static electricity but stronger version (and hopefully safe too) of it for use onboard spacecraft and space station.

I can picture mentally of an electricity that could flow through object(s) with mass then when that occur so, the object mass gain energy temporarily at a given time as long electricity flows through then surely sub-sequentially yield a stronger gravitational attraction. I imagine would have to make objects whose density have to accompany dense geometry in order to accommodate extra energy. But I'm not sure about objects' (e.g. which ore material etc) sustainability or endurance could / would be (e.g. lead to decay as natural things would do).

This is not such a wacky idea as some responses suggest, as we already do use electrostatics for a similar purpose to gravity.

However I have to tell you that this is not appropriate or suitable for your use.

 

Think about muddy water.

What happens if you stand it in a jar ?

The mude settles under gravity.

You get a layer of sediment in the bottom with clear(er) water above.

This was and still is used for gold panning for instance.

In modern times we have electrostatic dust precipitators (or collectors).

[swansont]

2 hours ago, studiot said:

This is not such a wacky idea as some responses suggest, as we already do use electrostatics for a similar purpose to gravity.

 

Similar purposes, though, is not the contention of the OP. “yield a stronger gravitational attraction.” is not going to happen in any meaningful way.

“Yield an attraction” is possible, but that’s not the question that was asked.

[exchemist]

11 hours ago, tylers100 said:

Weight Gain from Static Charging, paper:

link: https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=122650

^ Check out the link, I read it but do not fully understand it as I'm still learning.. but do know that it pertains to this thread minus the artificial gravity notion though.

SCIRP is a well-known family of predatory journals, which publishes any old nonsense the author pays them for.