Dave Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 I don't know whether this is a contradiction of the rules, but I don't care If [imath]\sigma(n)[/imath] is the sum of the divisors of n, then: [imath]\sigma\left(4! + (4-\frac{4}{4})! - \frac{4}{4}\right) = 30[/imath]
Dave Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Also, a quick rule that I'm going to impose: You must wait for at least 3 posts after your last one before you can post another. This stops the post whoring to a certain extent
PhDP Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Well... It could be difficult to respect the new rule as it goes harder. And about 30 it's easy IF sqrt(4) is ok (which, from a technical point of view, isn't).
Dave Posted October 6, 2005 Posted October 6, 2005 Well, it's never very difficult; you could just have [math]n = \sum_{1}^{n} \frac{4}{4}[/math]
Dave Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Yes, but my point was that you could easily just sum a load of 4/4's for any number. That kind of equation isn't particularly interesting
Rasori Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Don't consider this an actual answer, but it's the best I can do (I got stuck with 31, after all). Someone more advanced than I in math probably has an actual way of doing it. 4!+(4!/4)+(≈(sqrt(sqrt4)))=31 ≈ meaning the rounded value--I dunno mathematical shorthand, but that was the best I could do lol. Darn the limit of fours, but the approximate value of 1.414 is 1 .
PhDP Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 We are still stuck at 30... Sure there's an easy answer; [math]4! + 4 + 4 - \sqrt{4} = 30[/math] But [math]\sqrt{4}[/math] is [math]4^{-2}[/math] and it's like using a 2.
Rasori Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Oh, sorry, I thought we had passed 30. Hmm, now I've gotta think about 30.
jcarlson Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I got 30 [math] \frac{4! + 4*4!}{4} [/math] and 31 [math] \frac{4! + 4}{4} + 4! [/math] and 32 is easy [math] 4*4 + 4*4 [/math] ok im gunna stop now. at least til you guys get stuck again
Callipygous Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 so yeah... im done for tonight... or at least until i have a lot of caffiene in my system. my bad : P
jcarlson Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 you either need practice with math or with latex. (unless i helluv just read that wrong... whcih im looking at now : P) (4! +4 *4)/4= 10 throw in some parentheses and your good to go: ((4! +4) *4)/4= 30 not sure what went wrong with this one' date=' but (4!+4)/4 +4=11 not 31[/quote'] you missed my other factorials, its not (4! + 4*4)/4, its (4! + 4*4!)/4 4! = 24, so this is equal to 24/4 + 24 = 30. same with the other one, missed another ! there
PhDP Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 I've got 33... [math]4!+\frac{4-.4}{.4} = 33[/math] 34...35 and 36 are easy, the next challenge is 37 and I'm too tired... [math]4! + \frac{4!}{4} +4 = 34[/math] [math]\frac{4.4}{.4} + 4! = 35[/math] [math]4!+4+4+4 = 36[/math]
zaphod Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 We are still stuck at 30... Sure there's an easy answer; [math]4! + 4 + 4 - \sqrt{4} = 30[/math] But [math]\sqrt{4}[/math] is [math]4^{-2}[/math] and it's like using a 2. yeah' date=' but if [math']\sqrt{4}[/math] isnt allowed, then [math]4![/math] shouldnt be either because its like saying [math]4 * 3 * 2 * 1[/math] personally, i feel that people using 44, 4.4, .4, etc are bending the rules more than using [math]\sqrt{4}[/math] that being said, [math]4! + (4! + \sqrt{4})/ (\sqrt{4}) = 37[/math] (thanks to whelck for that one)
Xyph Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 Edit: Oops. Miscalculated. That said, [math]\sqrt{4}[/math] probably shouldn't be allowed since it's [math]^2\sqrt{4}[/math] which includes another number, and [math].4[/math] should properly include a 0, as well. Still, they might as well be allowed now, I suppose.
Ducky Havok Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 What happened to 39? Edit: I'm guessing Xyph took it down, so here's one. (4!/.4)/4+4!=39
BigMoosie Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 41 = (4 x 4 + .4) / .4 √4 is definantly cheating in my opinion. Why not call it the four 4 or 2s ongoing challenge?
YT2095 Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 ok I`ll have a go at 42. (4!)-(sqrt4)x(srqrt4)-(sqrrt4)=42 (4!) = 24 (sqrrt4) = 2 so 24 - 2 = 22 22 x 2 = 44 44 - 2 =42
jeheron Posted October 8, 2005 Posted October 8, 2005 ok I`ll have a go at 42. (4!)-(sqrt4)x(srqrt4)-(sqrrt4)=42 That equals 18 (I may be wrong), I think your order of operation is wrong. Try: 4!x(4/4+4/4)-((4!)/4))
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