hello1 Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Theoretically, if we send enough electrons to the moon, we can pull the moon closer to Earth. Then, if we can find a way to DE-accelerate the moon and make it a safe touch-down, we will have a new world. And this is, maybe the realistic solution for our over populated, energy hunger near future. http://shoutthemoon.com
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 How will these electrons move the moon closer to us?
hello1 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Posted October 23, 2005 Fe = Ce X Q1 X Q2 / R X R If we beam electrons to the moon, it's only a matter of time until the moon accelarating to Earth. The attraction force between the positive Earth and the negative moon causes the accelaration.
Mokele Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Why the hell would we want to cause a giant ball of rock to come crashing into us? I guarantee it would solve the overpopulation problem, but not in the way you're thinking.
hello1 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Posted October 23, 2005 Think about the possibilities. We'll have more land and ocean, oil and food. If someone in the universe can grab the moon, that is only us.
5614 Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 We'll have more land and ocean, oil and food. Yep, lots of new oceans (remember there's no water on the moon ). And there wouldn't be any oil on the moon either. And the soil isn't that fertile now we come to it. I don't think it's quite as simple as you put it. Like Mokele said with the decreasing population when the moon lands on us. I don't especially like your idea, nothing personal, it's just it sounds a bit, well, stupid.
hello1 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Posted October 23, 2005 Well, when I got this idea, was drunk on highlife beer. If we make it a controled touch-down, we will have two balls bite into each other, water mostly around the ring, some sea beds will become dry land.
J.C.MacSwell Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Well' date=' when I got this idea, was drunk on highlife beer. If we make it a controled touch-down, we will have two balls bite into each other, water mostly around the ring, some sea beds will become dry land.[/quote'] If you increase the "pull" of the moon it will move to a closer faster orbit and reach a new equilibrium. But with the right manipulation of charges on the moon and Earth you can decay the orbit while generating power. Good luck with the "controlled touch-down" though!
hello1 Posted October 23, 2005 Author Posted October 23, 2005 When we pull the moon come closer and closer to the Earth, the moon will circle the Earth faster and faster. The attraction force between the two bodies will be equal to the centrifuge force. Therefor, we may arrange a safe touch-down. A month will be close to a day.
bascule Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 I think causing the moon's orbit to decay and thus make it come crashing down into earth would be the single most cataclysmic event in the history of our planet... And among other problems, if you built up enormous negative potential in the moon like that, then as soon as it far enough into our atmosphere it would all be released in the form of an enormous lightning bolt the likes of which we have never seen. A better use for the moon: Send self-replicating nanorobots to cover the entire surface of the moon with photovoltaic arrays. Use microwaves to beam all of this energy back to earth. That'd take care of our energy problems for awhile. And hey, as long as we have the technology to do that, we can build a supercollider which spans the entire circumference of the moon. Think of what kind of high energy physics research you could do with that...
hello1 Posted October 24, 2005 Author Posted October 24, 2005 haha, it's getting wild.... let's drink some moon beer first.
Janus Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 When we pull the moon come closer and closer to the Earth' date=' the moon will circle the Earth faster and faster. The attraction force between the two bodies will be equal to the centrifuge force. Therefor, we may arrange a safe touch-down. A month will be close to a day.[/quote'] Actually, by the time the surface of the moon touched the Earth a month would be equal to 2 hrs and the moon would be traveling at a very high speed relative to the surface of the Earth. But that is moot point, as you would never get the moon that close to the Earth in one piece. Long before that it would pass inside the Roche limit and be torn into rubble by tidal forces.
DaveC426913 Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 When we pull the moon come closer and closer to the Earth' date=' the moon will circle the Earth faster and faster. The attraction force between the two bodies will be equal to the centrifuge force. Therefor, we may arrange a safe touch-down. A month will be close to a day.[/quote'] Um. Regardless of how slow the touchdown is, once the Moon and Earth are within each others' Roche* limits, they will tear each other apart into boulders and we will become the Solar System's 2nd asteroid belt. * Google this.
hello1 Posted October 24, 2005 Author Posted October 24, 2005 I am a college droped out, my head is just as big as it is. Please don't tell me in this forum no one can give this idea a serious discussing.
5614 Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 It's an illogical idea which would be useless and deadly, not to mention the engineering difficulties. If you take Mokele's post #4 seriously it does quite head on address your idea. You say more land/ocean/oil/food... but there will be no extra ocean/oil/food because the moon can't provide that. As for land; there'd hardly be land because the moon wouldn't land as a solid planet on the Earth, it would disintegrate in the atmosphere and we'd get a mega meteorite shower. Even if your controlle landing did work, which it wouldn't, you've forget to include the "disintegration in atmosphere" side of things, which whilst it would still address your original overpopulation issue, it would "not [be] in the way you're thinking" - quote Mokele.
hello1 Posted October 24, 2005 Author Posted October 24, 2005 There was a shoe company send a salesman to Africa. He looked around and tele back "no market, people down here don't wear no shoes". The shoe company called him back and send another salesman. He looks around and tele back "ship me all the sandles you can find, people down here have no shoes to wear". I think when the moon coming closer to the Earth, lots of things will change, we should give more thoughts before give up hope. Another thought, can we arrange a new orbit that keeps the moon few 10s/100s miles away?
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